Does the lack of ejaculation contribute to start of prostate cancer

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Posted 31 Jan 2016 at 11:18

Hello

My father died of prostate cancer 6 yrs ago aged 79.

Now when he was in his fifties he was put on a drug that reduced his blood pressure, unfortunately this contributed to the fact he could no longer get an erection there for no ejacultion!

Now for quite sometime I have developed the theory that if you are not emptying your prostate of semen, the said semen must sit there rotting, I assume the body will be absorbing it back into the body, but does it?

So if anybody would like to share if you had or have prostate cancer what your ejaculation levels were like say 5-10 years before getting the cancer, I would be very interested.

regards Andy

PS I'm not a Doctor,

just trying to connect the dots!

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Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 09:30

I'm following this conversation because it interests me and your post does RT.

I must have remembered the bit about the body re-absorbing the semen from when we were given advice before John's vasectomy over 40 years ago (I can't remember what happened yesterday but 40+ years - no trouble) !

Now of course, he's had prostate cancer. Did it cause it. ? Who knows. Without Andy's question I wouldn't have given it another thought

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Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 20:44

Ok so I have tried to stay away from this thread, obviously our sex education in this country is at the best severely lacking and at the worst failing miserably.

Not a lot of people know this but I am a dog breeder😎So the understanding of how when and why egg meets sperm is pretty fundamental . So here we go, Male dogs exactly like humans have a prostate ( and also suffer from PCa) sadly they were only blessed with paws , so no wet dreams and no DIY 😛 They are only stimulated by the scent of the female in season ( this is her egg production time and the only time when she is Horney and would allow , or be up for it) the rest of the time she would bite his head off .

Stay with me here so fully entire male stud dogs probably only get to mate a b**** around 6 / 7 times per year😰 And that's on a good year. The average is probably 4/5 times per year.

So are they storing up rotten sperm nooooo inert sperm sits in the epididymis ( this is where it goes from being inert to mature sperm) if it is not used or ejaculated then it is reabsorbed like saliva back into the body , we don't fill up with rotten saliva , sperm is reabsorbed the same way.

I have just explained this to my boy dogs and wow they are so relieved , bless they thought they were going to explode with retained semen 😜 I told Them just have a Bonoi and you will be fine.🤗

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON

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Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 21:20

Just ruined a nice skirt with splurted tea - thanks Julie

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 02 Feb 2016 at 22:25

There could be a confusion about cause and effect here. Having "dry" ejaculations is apparently a symptom -but not cause - of prostate cancer. We wish we had known this earlier, so it's worth mentioning here.

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Posted 16 Nov 2018 at 19:07

I have never enjoyed a ‘wet dream’, probably due to the reason referred to above.

The nearest to a ‘nocturnal emission’ I have experienced, was following my recent prostatectomy, and that ejaculation was indeed urine, which is why I am now sleeping on top of a map of Tasmania!

Cheers, John.

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Posted 31 Jan 2016 at 12:54

Hello Andy and welcome to the site.

I do not know whether lack of ejaculation causes the semen to sit and "rot" but personally I'd have said the body was pretty good at sorting out the re-absorbtion of unwanted semen but the, like you I'm not a doctor.

Just wondering though what makes you assume that if he had no erections he wasn't ejaculating. Did you discuss this or is it your assumption.
If you are assuming that your supposition is correct then there would possibly be many men presenting with PC because they never ejaculate (celibates for a start) so I can't believe that is right (but I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong)

There will be men on here who will tell you that you do not have to have an erection to ejaculate.

I would be interested in the answers that others will give so will follow your post.

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Posted 31 Jan 2016 at 13:03

Ive read many times since diagnosis that regular ejaculation helps prevent prostate disease. Well I was a bachelor until I was 42 and spent a lot of time ejaculating but it didn't prevent me from getting a nasty cancer !! I think it is sound advice though ? I didn't realise I could successfully reach orgasm without an erection until I joined this site , so it's possible your dad was still purging.
Chris

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

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Posted 31 Jan 2016 at 14:17

Asp, the most likely cause of your dad getting prostate cancer was being a man. 70% of men in their 70s and 80% of men in their 80s will have PCa although for most of these, there will be no symptoms, it may never cause them any problems and in some cases will never be diagnosed.

Having said that, there is some new research that suggests ejaculating frequently makes PCa less likely. But so does eating lots of cooked tomatoes, garlic, onions and sardines and yet a man who does all the right things might still get it.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 31 Jan 2016 at 21:01

Andy

Don't think I had any rotting semen. The amount of semen ejaculated diminished in the years to DX, I assume due to the prostate not being as efficient or damaged.

Thanks Chris

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Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 09:30

I'm following this conversation because it interests me and your post does RT.

Now of course, he's had prostate cancer. Did it cause it. ? Who knows. Without Andy's question I wouldn't have given it another thought

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails

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Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 10:49

Soon after my vasectomy , things started to change quite a lot. I researched the death out of vasectomy and everywhere you look it says it does not affect your sex life. Although sperm itself is a very small amount of the semen ejaculated during orgasm , I found a drastic loss in volume very quickly -- probably half ! And this got worse until I was diagnosed with PCa . When I asked my doctor , he said many many men complain about sex issues after vasectomy , despite the claims it is totally safe .
When you have a vasectomy , the tubes are cut so that they cant supply the seminal vesicles anymore. The testicles still produce sperm but it but it is reabsorbed into the body. I don't thik that's harmful ? The seminal fluid is still made in the prostate and stored in the seminal vesicles attached to it until orgasm. Yes when young, men have wet dreams quite regularly. I think that is more an adolescent thing driven by testosterone levels etc. I was lucky to have an active sex life all through my life really and simply cant remember the last time I had an erotic dream , then again you need to be asleep to have a dream..........
Chris

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

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Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 20:44

Ok so I have tried to stay away from this thread, obviously our sex education in this country is at the best severely lacking and at the worst failing miserably.

Stay with me here so fully entire male stud dogs probably only get to mate a b**** around 6 / 7 times per year😰 And that's on a good year. The average is probably 4/5 times per year.

I have just explained this to my boy dogs and wow they are so relieved , bless they thought they were going to explode with retained semen 😜 I told Them just have a Bonoi and you will be fine.🤗

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON

User

Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 21:20

Just ruined a nice skirt with splurted tea - thanks Julie

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 01 Feb 2016 at 21:39

No problem Lyn, just so glad that the reproductive system is finally understood.

Of course that still leaves me with a laptop, a blouse and know a skirt to explain to my insurance company.🤑

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON

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Posted 02 Feb 2016 at 19:22

prior to PCa dag

I had painful ejaculations, later on I did notice that my ejaculate amount had lessened this was about 18 mounts prior to me Dagonised.

Edited by member 02 Feb 2016 at 19:24 | Reason: Not specified

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Posted 02 Feb 2016 at 22:25

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 07:33

Hello, may I ask, do these painful ejaculations mean pain while ejeculating or pain minutes afterwards? Thank you

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 11:15

Sorry I can't be very clear,

it was a long time ago , I think it was a bit of both

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 13:17

Several years ago I found some information concerning 'milking the prostate' by way of massage undertaken by practitioners of this procedure, the idea of this being to help expel old semen. I did post it on here at the time and a retired GP who was an active member on the forum at the time derided the practice as being unnecessary and serving no useful purpose.

Barry

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 13:22

This is my theory and I'm not a doctor, so take it with a pinch of salt.

I've read a few times on the forum the odd man say that pre-diagnosis, either the volume of ejaculate started to reduce or the quality of erection started to deteriorate. Now, these are not considered to be usual symptoms of PCa. But I do wonder if either one of them is being under-estimated as a possible symptom of PCa and if any research is being carried out.

Walter

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 14:03

I think reducing quality of erection (not as firm as before / short lasting / easily lost) are all types of ED which is recognised as an indicator of PCa. Unfortunately, all are also indicators of increasing age, stress, blood pressure etc so like everything else we discuss on here, not proof of cancer.

John had all of these in the months pre-diagnosis but we both assumed it was down to some pretty big stuff going on in our life. Only hindsight (and threads here) made me think it may have been an early warning.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 14:12

Manwith, I seem to remember that prostate massage was big business in America where men were paying quite large sums of money for the procedure. I also think there were a couple of cases where the person offering the massage (I think people other than qualified doctors can also sell this service) turned out to be predatory / sexually motivated. Possibly why LordInch was so anti?

Common sense would say that if prostate massage protected men from PCa then men receiving anal sex or regular anal stimulation would be much less likely to get it. I don't think that is a statistic that has ever popped up in reliable research?

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 14:13

Ha ha ha - you will always be manwith to me :-/

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 26 Nov 2017 at 14:43

This is a very interesting thread, hindsight is a wonderful thing, I had a vasectomy fourty odd years ago and I can remember clearly the consultant whilst finishing the stitching up of my testes (local anaesthetic) saying only problem you may have will be with your prostate . That went clearly over my head at the time,what's a prostate I thought, I was happy that the operation was over, and I could get back to work. Also I suffered from pain whilst ejaculating and on a occasion no sperm at all, also later in life I suffered from epididymitis which I discovered recently is caused by an enlarged prostate in older men. So the signs may have been there however it took a blood test for high blood pressure to bring it to a conclusion, that said I thank the medical profession for their promptness as soon as it was diagnosed .

Regards

James

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