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Ever Decreasing Circles part three

User
Posted 23 Dec 2015 at 21:13
Hi Paul

Sorry to hear of your latest psa rise, I do so hope enzalutamide works for you in Jan.

Bob did well on abiraterone, stilbestrol then a bit of radiotherapy after becoming hormone resistant in Nov 2013.

Have a great Xmas with the family.

Lesley x

User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 02:31
Hi Paul,

Enjoyed being able to have a brief chat at the Flyer.

Hope things improve for you in the New Year.

Have a Good Christmas with family and friends.

Steve

User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 08:03
Hi Paul, sorry I am late with this but like everyone else I wish you well and hope that whatever the quacks try next has a successful and lasting outcome. It was great to be with you at the Flyer and look forward to seeing you at the Mill in the summer!

Like you Xmas is a time I love, l hope you have a great one.

Kev

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today Avatar is me doing the 600 mile Camino de Santiago May 2019

User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 10:38

Thanks Simon, Lesley and Carol. It's Christmas now and it's 2016 soon and that is worth celebrating, four years and counting. The rest will take care of itself.

User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 10:52

I just want to offer a little about my way of coping. I blogged to my close friends in a private blog I have kept since this all started. I wanted to share that with you as a contribution to 'ways of thinking' about this disease. Here it is........................

It was a fascinating day just a couple of days before Xmas and just about four years on from my original diagnosis. Although it started with a bit of a jolt. My journey is clear, which overall I accept or at least have become accustomed to, even if the time it will take is unpredictable. The uncertainty of the certainty gives plenty of scope for living and this has already given me four very good years. So when the oncologist reported a rise, a spike, in my PSA, whilst disappointed, I did think well this was not unexpected. I had gone a year since the last spike and in that time the additional drug I was given from last January did its job and kept my PSA stable for a year, longer than average for that drug as my onco mentioned today. So yes that journey is over but the boy done good! In five weeks time after a precautionary CT Scan to check if there has been any soft tissue development I will start a newer more heavy duty drug called enzalutimide. My journey continues.

I have used the image of 'ever decreasing circles' as my strapline. I think it acts as a metaphor for my life, maybe for anyone's life. We start life with horizons broad and options many. As we make life choices those options begin to narrow though plenty of scope remains if our life is reasonably successful. This analogy works too for those whose life options are less malleable as their circles sadly decrease more rapidly. The timing of change, the next circle is difficult to determine. We do not get a rehearsal in life so cannot go back and tweak the journey to our own prescription. Each circle is experienced anew with all its unpredictably, naivety, hope and expectation. Even as a young child the fact is that death will be the ultimate outcome even though we cannot imagine it unless misfortune intervenes. As adults we struggle to imagine it too and many have this sense of immortality because it can be intellectually challenging to imagine non-existence. We can do it logically but not through the senses. I find that the image of decreasing circles allows possibilities of moving on as well as restrictions. Sure the circles will reduce and each failure of treatment leads only one way. But on that way we can have lots of fulfilling times. I choose to enjoy my survival and not focus on the regret the decrease in my life circles might engender.

So after getting the news and letting people know and receiving some lovely and kind thoughts from my dear friends and family and especially on the forum I spent the day completing a project I have been working on for a few weeks now. I was inspired by one of the Man Booker shortlist books to sort out my disused and frankly depressing study to get it back in shape. The passage which influenced me was from Tom McCarthy's Satin Island.

I decided that I needed to recreate a space for me to get back to my writing. I had been too busy doing other things that I had ignored my novel. So after my onco meeting I went with my son and we collected my books from work, over 500 and I brought them home and we set about filling the bookcases, tidying, clearing and generally finishing a job we had started five or six weeks ago. The study in my house is now fully restored. I sat down and found myself almost feeling euphoric with this final effort and the result. The whole day had gone quickly and the ideas for the future use of the room had stayed uppermost in my mind. Each circle has possibilities if you seek them out even if they have boundaries!

Today could have been such a s*** day but I knew my circles would decrease and so that happened whilst another circle was opened. I can celebrate four years of survival and do not need to count the future time. It will take care of itself. The circles will continue to narrow and eventually end of life will be reached. I feel happy that i can understand this process without rancour or regret and be able for now to live with it and enjoy my life. I will enjoy Christmas and new year and look forward to trying to ensure that 2016 is not my last circle. After all it's just as feasible that the new drug will last a year or more and whatever is waiting in future circles will grant me more time. Nobody knows the pathway for certain as it is a once only journey but one I am happy to be on! Happy Christmas to all!

User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 11:40

Happy Christmas Paul and thank you for sharing

Bri

User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 12:22

A really great and inspirational post Paul.
Thanks for writing it.

My best Christmas wishes to you and everyone who uses this forum.

Batholith

User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 13:26

Merry Christmas to you and yours Paul.

You're like an Olympian, with all your circles linked to make a striking display of endurance and courage.

I like your thinking very much although I am sad for you that such thoughts are necessary.

Get on with that novel. I await it's publication with eager anticipation.

( I craft and I have spent the last several weeks putting my room straight, finding lots of bits and pieces that got mislaid (and don't tell John, but I secretly replaced thinking they were lost forever!!)
I too am tidy and organised now and it's been so long since the room looked like it now does that I keep going in there to admire it, I'm already planning my next lot of cards so I shall keep very busy with it all in the New Year.)

With best wishes to you for successful treatment for 2016

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 24 Dec 2015 at 13:43
Hi Yorkhull, superb post, good luck with the Enzo. I will follow your posts closely. Have a lovely Christmas
User
Posted 25 Dec 2015 at 00:14

Happy Christmas Paul x

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 25 Dec 2015 at 03:04
Merry Christmas Paul

Carol x

User
Posted 25 Dec 2015 at 03:44
Happy Xmas my friend, I am sure that there are a few more circles left in you!

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today Avatar is me doing the 600 mile Camino de Santiago May 2019

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 16:51

Well in the new year and have had some pain in the last week or so which has left me feeling a bit down. I have been resting so hoping it calms down and using pain killers too. Anyway I was awaiting a call for CT Scan as we had agreed it could be done after Xmas and that this week was a good one as I have been on leave. So when I did not get the call I finally rang them. As always the urology nurses are really helpful and they chased down the problem. Apparently when the request went in they did not have a sufficiently recent blood test for my kidney function etc but this simply means they reject the request but it does not get filtered back to the originators.

So had I not enquired what was happening and had the nurse not searched this out I would have waited beyond my next appointment with no scan. Been frustrating but at least my call has got them going. Blood test tomorrow and will personally book my CT Scan so I can get a convenient date and then assuming everything is ok move on to enzo.

If my pain is related to some activity in the bone mets then the quicker I can get onto this new drug the better. Another circle!

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 17:01

Paul

Must be a quirk of CT departments, I had almost the same with my CT scan two years ago "insufficient clinical information" was the reason for the rejection but nobody was told, I eventually had my CT on the Friday and the op at 7.30 on the Monday.

Hope it all works out for you.

Thanks Chris

 

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 17:46

Hi Paul
I've chased all the way this last 12 months , sometimes maybe unnecessarily but mostly needed. I've found that if I'm extremely polite it works wonders with people. It's not normally an individual's fault or laziness , just a system that regularly breaks down. I'm glad you got it sorted though. Lots of appointments back up over Xmas and " post holiday blues" set in.
Wishing you success on the Enzo
Chris

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 18:10

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

I've chased all the way this last 12 months , sometimes maybe unnecessarily but mostly needed.

We never know what needed chasing if we don't chase everything. Sounds like damn good project management to me. http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 18:54
Paul

It is such a crazy system that allows something to be "bounced" but doesn't actually tell the originator, and also allows the originator to just let it go apparently unanswered. A double faiure in my view. It all sounds sadly familiar.

Sent PM about pain control

xxx

Mo

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 19:24
Hi Paul,

We always politely chase up scan dates.Hope you get date soon.

Paul, I admire how you deal with your cancer journey. Am sorry to hear it has become hormone resistant now. Hoping you get an effective response once you start the enzalutamide.

All the best to you.

Lesley

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 22:24

Thanks Lesley your kind thoughts are much appreciated. To be fair as soon as I got in touch they acted very quickly, clearly upset that this had been 'lost'. If I can get it next week though not got as much available time it won't slow the move on, as move on we must!

User
Posted 07 Jan 2016 at 22:53

Sorry to hear the pain has flared up Paul. It sounds strange that recent blood tests are required for a scan....sure there must be a reason.
We shouldn't have to chase these things but unfortunately we find all too often we have to. Good job Tina and Co are very helpful

Take care

Bri

 
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