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Posted 12 Oct 2020 at 18:54

I’m sorry to read this. I hope they can get him in a hospice and make him comfortable. Thinking of you all.

Ido4

User
Posted 12 Oct 2020 at 19:23

Really sorry to hear this... hope you/they can get the your grandad comfortable and free of any pain.

Its so sad you/we have to fight for basic humane treatment for our loved ones....

my dad (84) is currently advanced prostate cancer, and while he is not quite end stage, things are starting to become a struggle for my mum etc... basic things like them not sorting his Abiraterone and 10mg steriod prescription - he run out for 3 days, no idea about Abiraterone but you can’t just stop 10mg steroids! No one followed up or apologised and my dad was not so good for a couple of nights and could not eat.

Hope your grandad gets the dignity and treatment he deserves.. I will be fighting for my dad.

xxx

User
Posted 12 Oct 2020 at 20:19

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

I’m sorry to read this. I hope they can get him in a hospice and make him comfortable. Thinking of you all.

Thank you very much, I hope you are well

User
Posted 12 Oct 2020 at 20:24

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Really sorry to hear this... hope you/they can get the your grandad comfortable and free of any pain.

Its so sad you/we have to fight for basic humane treatment for our loved ones....

my dad (84) is currently advanced prostate cancer, and while he is not quite end stage, things are starting to become a struggle for my mum etc... basic things like them not sorting his Abiraterone and 10mg steriod prescription - he run out for 3 days, no idea about Abiraterone but you can’t just stop 10mg steroids! No one followed up or apologised and my dad was not so good for a couple of nights and could not eat.

Hope your grandad gets the dignity and treatment he deserves.. I will be fighting for my dad.

xxx

Thank you, I know it is a horrible feeling having to fight for basic humane treatment.. I know covid has made things harder but we can't take any comfort in that! Keep on fighting

Sending love and strength to you, your mum, dad and rest of the family!

Take comfort in the fact there are some very kind people out there that do their most to help, are we explained to the ambulance crew the situation they were appalled and they put on the blue lights and flagged him as possible sepsis even though they knew he hasn't got it just so he would get seen quicker. 

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Posted 12 Oct 2020 at 20:35

Thank you so much for your kind words.

We will keep fighting for my dad... there are certainly some amazing nurses, consultants and doctors out there. My dad has felt he has had good treatment to date and to be fair he has had all scans, blood tests etc.. sadly it may be his cancer is just too aggressive now for anything to work and it’s his time.

All we can hope for, and for your grandad too, is that they are comfortable and peaceful.

all the best for you, your family and especially your grandad 

xx

 

 

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Posted 13 Oct 2020 at 15:46

Thank you Anne

I had to fight today to be able to see him at the hospital, they first said no but then allowed me to visit him for 30 minutes but nurses kept coming around asking who allowed me in. 

My grandad was so confused about where he was, I let him know I was there and he said where have you been I have been looking for you. I feel so broken having to leave him after 30 minutes knowing he has days or a week or two left. I tried to keep strong for him but when I had to leave I got a bit choked up and he told me to take care. 

Bollocks to COVID and Prostate cancer. 

User
Posted 13 Oct 2020 at 16:16

Glad you got to see him but heartbreaking to have to leave him. What a situation. 

Ido4

User
Posted 13 Oct 2020 at 17:01
Hi Joey

This is a really crap situation and extra stress and sadness for your grandad and you - can they get him into a local hospice do you think?

I cannot begin to imagine not being allowed in to see my dad if he was in hospital. Each time my dad has an appointment at the oncology clinic or surgery for blood tests, my mum has to fight to go in with him... he can hardly walk now so they have to let my mum in too but not happily!

While Covid19 is a serious disease so is terminal cancer - NHS need to give priority patients and their families the treatment and backup they need.

I really hope they can arrange something more suitable and comfortable for your grandad and your family sorted ASAP so you can spend as much time with him as possible.

Anne

Xx

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 19:15

Thank you for everyone on here that gave me hope and support, my Grandad was transferred to another ward where the nurses seemed to be very understanding, they did not have a single room for him but he ended up on a ward with others (not ideal as they were all going home) the nurses told us they would take it in turns to sit with my grandfather when we weren't there.

I had multiple visits with him but the last few days we was completely out of it and the hospice said he was too ill to move there, my lovely grandad passed away on Sunday whilst one of the nurses were holding his hand. I guess his cancer was just too aggressive and they also believed it had infiltrated his bone marrow so he was at risk of dying from a big bleed but thankfully that didn't happen.

If any of you are reading this, please have a toast to my grandfather. I send my love and well wishes to everyone with PC and also their families, actually sod that I send my well wishes to everyone with cancer or a terminal illness.

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 19:28

Dear joey

I will raise my glass for you dear grandad... so sorry ..it sounds like he had a peaceful passing, though probably I am sure you would have wanted him out of hospital. its a total crap disease...isn’t any terminal one? 

My dad is not doing good (maybe a similar age to your grandad 84?), he’s at home, but he spent his lifetime very fit and healthy, so now he’s becoming very weak to get up, eat etc ... he does not like to make any fuss but has mentioned the doctor twice in last 2 days but no answer back from Macmillan nurse ...it goes to answer machine.

Sorry dear Joey, sorry you have lost your beloved grandad to this disease and bless you for thinking of others.

best wishes

anne 

xx

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 19:55

Joey

So sorry to hear of your loss, please accept my sincere condolences. I will raise a glass to him tonight. Love and hugs, take care of yourself.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 20:12

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Dear joey

I will raise my glass for you dear grandad... so sorry ..it sounds like he had a peaceful passing, though probably I am sure you would have wanted him out of hospital. its a total crap disease...isn’t any terminal one? 

My dad is not doing good (maybe a similar age to your grandad 84?), he’s at home, but he spent his lifetime very fit and healthy, so now he’s becoming very weak to get up, eat etc ... he does not like to make any fuss but has mentioned the doctor twice in last 2 days but no answer back from Macmillan nurse ...it goes to answer machine.

Sorry dear Joey, sorry you have lost your beloved grandad to this disease and bless you for thinking of others.

best wishes

anne 

xx

Thank you Anne, I am sorry to hear that your dad isn't too good, if he doesn't make a fuss usually but he has mentioned the doctor in the past few days I'd maybe recommend calling out his GP to visit him at home or maybe even worse case scenario call an ambulance to get the ball rolling.. After all your father does have advanced prostate cancer so it isn't like you are wasting the ambulance crews time, for us it was like an endless loop when trying to call oncology/urology or even the GP but the only progress that was made was actually during my grandad being in hospital. 

I hope your dad is helped soon and all of you keep strong,

Joe 

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 20:26

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Dear joey

I will raise my glass for you dear grandad... so sorry ..it sounds like he had a peaceful passing, though probably I am sure you would have wanted him out of hospital. its a total crap disease...isn’t any terminal one? 

My dad is not doing good (maybe a similar age to your grandad 84?), he’s at home, but he spent his lifetime very fit and healthy, so now he’s becoming very weak to get up, eat etc ... he does not like to make any fuss but has mentioned the doctor twice in last 2 days but no answer back from Macmillan nurse ...it goes to answer machine.

Sorry dear Joey, sorry you have lost your beloved grandad to this disease and bless you for thinking of others.

best wishes

anne 

xx

Thank you Anne, I am sorry to hear that your dad isn't too good, if he doesn't make a fuss usually but he has mentioned the doctor in the past few days I'd maybe recommend calling out his GP to visit him at home or maybe even worse case scenario call an ambulance to get the ball rolling.. After all your father does have advanced prostate cancer so it isn't like you are wasting the ambulance crews time, for us it was like an endless loop when trying to call oncology/urology or even the GP but the only progress that was made was actually during my grandad being in hospital. 

I hope your dad is helped soon and all of you keep strong,

Joe 

Dear Joe

thank you so much for taking time to advise this when you are going through the toughest time. It is so crap....

i have left a message for the Macmillan nurse on their voicemail so hopefully she will respond tomorrow. I just hope we can keep dad out of hospital now as it seems with Covid visiting would be very difficult.

you take care & raising a cheers to your grandad and brighter days for you.

xx

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 22:08
I am so sad for you and your mum and the wider family, Joe - diagnosis to dying in 5 months is exceptionally rare. I hope that in the future, you will look back and be proud that you challenged rubbish practice and fought for him to be treated with kindness and dignity.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 23:30

Thank you Chris, sending all my well wishes your way

User
Posted 20 Oct 2020 at 23:35

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
I am so sad for you and your mum and the wider family, Joe - diagnosis to dying in 5 months is exceptionally rare. I hope that in the future, you will look back and be proud that you challenged rubbish practice and fought for him to be treated with kindness and dignity.

Thank you Lyn, all of your advice and support has been very much appreciated. I realise it is rare in that short space of time, I do feel guilty because on initial diagnosis my grandad wanted to give up but the consultant said he is not going to pass away in a short space of time and estimated they could give him 2 more years which made him pick up.

All in all this forum and community gave me the strength to go on, albeit with the thought that we had more time but it none the less kept me going. 

Thanks for everything 

User
Posted 21 Oct 2020 at 09:11

Missed this last night, so sorry for your loss. I am thinking of you and your family. I will raise a glass to your Grandad tonight. 

Ido4

User
Posted 21 Oct 2020 at 12:13

Sincere condolences Joey.  I will raise a glass to your lovely grandad.  Take care x

User
Posted 26 Oct 2020 at 19:36

Thank you all, I really appreciate it. It is easy for me to appear strong via these messages but it still doesn't feel real, I hope I eventually come to terms with it. To everyone reading this, this is the story of a 91 year old man so please don't assume the worst if you are newly diagnosed, as Lyn has said this is a very rare scenario to go from diagnosis to the end in the space of 5 months so please go on and remain positive!

User
Posted 26 Oct 2020 at 20:04

Dear Joe

So sorry for the loss of your grandad... I still miss my grandad who died 25 years ago but feel grateful for times to have had such a lovely grandad.  It’s obvious you loved your grandad very much ... after all cancer is just a very very small part of someone’s life and will not define them.

I am beginning to realise it does not matter the age of a person...if you love them and have lost them then it’s always going to hurt.

Now I am facing my dads decline with advanced prostate cancer and even with the best 2nd line Abiraterone drugs it’s not working (he did very well on hormone injections for 18 months). It seems to me that nothing is guaranteed and people can reel off their medical scores but everyone is different.

I wish you a good future, enjoy your life every precious day and I suspect you and I will meet our loved ones in another way.

anne

xx

 

 

 
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