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Posted 07 Dec 2019 at 14:30

hello everyone

Amazed how quick every thing has moved along having only had the prostrate biopsies taken on the 17th of November. 2 weeks later the results which were Gleason 3+4 . TNM grades T3a ,0,0. Although I had some reservations, after talking to the consultant I was totally convinced that surgery  was the correct decision .

For 5 days after my biopsy. Due to water retention in my bladder I had to wear a catheter and struggled with pain in the end of my penis and the first 3 days was hell until I changed the bag. Don,t know why but it did make a difference , even though I was always able to pass urine  it did make a difference. The relief when the catheter was removed  was huge and therefore it was sometime before I new something might be  amiss. I eventually I got my GP to send off a urine sample as I was in a lot of pain when peeing and my flow was a less than normal.

        I am currently sitting at home and approaching the last few days on antibiotics. The situation with my passing water and peeing has much improved and believe the antibiotics have done their thing. My only concern is the last couple of days, I have been constipated to point where it has made me feel quite poorly. Fortunately  I have manged to get things moving along with the use of macrogel ,Ispaghula and fibrogel. This makes me feel much better but still not 100%. I am currently thinking that I should be feeling better than I am and worry as I am only a week away from my Radical Prostratectomy .Don,t know why I am contsipated and still have some pain in my prostrate area although not servere. I am wondering if I should be telling someone or should I wait until the antibiotics coarse is completed. I really don,t want to cancel my operation as I am a full time carer for my wife and have arranged family to help out over the Christmas holidays. Any help advice would be appreciated. Best regards Dave. ps sorry about the spelling

          

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

User
Posted 19 Dec 2019 at 08:27

Good to hear you have that in hand.

Yeah avoid sitting on anything firm for. Week or so. Sitting on my home office chair would bring on a bleed in urine for me as the bladder would be irritated. Talking to a doctor friend he recommended Hard seats as much as possible as lots of swelling and bruising downstairs plus weak blood vessels trying to heal. ‘Deck chair mode’ of the sofa works well :-)

User
Posted 30 Dec 2019 at 19:23

Thanks guys. Lots of ideas to digest and consider but gradually getting my head around it . I now have a good selection of pants and pads. Hopefully by the time I need to order some more I will have a better idea what is more suitable for my needs and probably order a monthly supply at a time. I now have enough for about 2 weeks but don't expect to see much change in that time.

User
Posted 31 Dec 2019 at 13:56

Thanks everyone for the kind words. Back home now after seeing the doctor. Who did a urine test. Good news he says I have a water infection so back on the same antibiotics I was on after the biopsies treatment were taken. So hopefully nothing to worry about and eased my concerns although still quite painfull. Especially after changing my white socks.

Some good news after drinking loads of water and waiting an hour and a half. I really put the inconvenience pants through their paces. I am amazed at how much water they hold and believe I have been throughing them away to early.

User
Posted 01 Jan 2020 at 09:51

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
Seems to me that you completely overdid things; going out 3 times in one day just two weeks after RP is bonkers.......You are at a significantly increased risk when you look at men here who have problems recovering their continence / erectile function they are often the ones who did too much in the early stages.

Maybe I would be enjoying rampant teenage erections again in what’s left of my penis if I hadn’t gone to the pub three times on my day of discharge from hospital, but somehow I doubt it.

I only did what I felt comfortable with post op, and I feel so grateful for my ten-day recuperation compared to the suffering and incontinence of others here.

Anyway, get well soon, and a Happy and Healthy New Year to all!

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 07 Dec 2019 at 14:30

hello everyone

Amazed how quick every thing has moved along having only had the prostrate biopsies taken on the 17th of November. 2 weeks later the results which were Gleason 3+4 . TNM grades T3a ,0,0. Although I had some reservations, after talking to the consultant I was totally convinced that surgery  was the correct decision .

For 5 days after my biopsy. Due to water retention in my bladder I had to wear a catheter and struggled with pain in the end of my penis and the first 3 days was hell until I changed the bag. Don,t know why but it did make a difference , even though I was always able to pass urine  it did make a difference. The relief when the catheter was removed  was huge and therefore it was sometime before I new something might be  amiss. I eventually I got my GP to send off a urine sample as I was in a lot of pain when peeing and my flow was a less than normal.

        I am currently sitting at home and approaching the last few days on antibiotics. The situation with my passing water and peeing has much improved and believe the antibiotics have done their thing. My only concern is the last couple of days, I have been constipated to point where it has made me feel quite poorly. Fortunately  I have manged to get things moving along with the use of macrogel ,Ispaghula and fibrogel. This makes me feel much better but still not 100%. I am currently thinking that I should be feeling better than I am and worry as I am only a week away from my Radical Prostratectomy .Don,t know why I am contsipated and still have some pain in my prostrate area although not servere. I am wondering if I should be telling someone or should I wait until the antibiotics coarse is completed. I really don,t want to cancel my operation as I am a full time carer for my wife and have arranged family to help out over the Christmas holidays. Any help advice would be appreciated. Best regards Dave. ps sorry about the spelling

          

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

User
Posted 10 Dec 2019 at 18:33

Hey Chris

ah thx top tip. I was drinking 2-3litres a day so got lazy when out or watching Netflix. 

I think I was fortunate going private as they seem to have quite a few options. Thankfully insurance picked up 99% of it.

TWOC Thursday morning so fingers crossed.

cheers

TG

 

User
Posted 11 Dec 2019 at 15:32

Update If I haven,t bored everyone to death by now.

Just received the all clear from my Urine sample. Now clear of infection. So now all systems go for Monday. I still have the issue of my stomach . Mainly gas building up which eventually gives me pain as it travels south . Once I have opened my Bowels, all is fine. I think its slowly improving with the tablets ( Buscopan used for Irritable Bowl Syndrome) I have never taken this before and never had this problem before. Is this something I need to tell the Urology department about  or do I wait until the big day and see if it clears? Just answered my own question and have decided to give the urology a ring and now waiting for the prostate nurse specialist to call me back.

Edited by member 11 Dec 2019 at 15:35  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 14 Dec 2019 at 22:00

Hi Dave,

You're relaxed, that's good. I hope everything goes well on Monday, and a smooth recovery in the days/weeks ahead.

Kev.

User
Posted 18 Dec 2019 at 22:18

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Dave

The catheter does not normally have a non return valve, the leg bag has a non return design. Some bags have a flap that closes, some have an arrangement of wafers that prevent backflow. When I started the journey nearly six years ago bags did not have backflow control, if you got a blockage you could lift the bag higher than the bladder and it would push the blockage back up the pipe. The current setup is called a closed system and once a component is removed it should be replaced with a new sterile item. On a catheter forum I belong to the night bag is a frequent topic of arguments.On some night bags the drain tap has to be broken to drain and is thrown away once used. On a night bag with a reusable tap my DN tells me in the home environment they can be reused for 7 days. If you have been given 10-14 night bags change it every day. A night bag is usually attached to the leg bag spout. 

I attach my night bag tube to my ankle with a leg strap or bag strap. I am a fairly restless sleeper and never have problems with pipes kinking. 

Thanks Chris

Cheers Chris I thought there is a non return valve somewhere couldn't remember where I have seen it. The night bags have a break off connection so I assume can only be used once. I only have enough for the week but have been assured more will be sent out to me. Hope so as I Don, t want to run out over the Xmas period.

 

User
Posted 27 Dec 2019 at 17:43

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Good to hear your update Dave. My TWOC is Monday, so your experience is really helpful! Thanks.

Keep us posted as it will be interesting to see how you get on too. Good to be able to compare notes haha

User
Posted 27 Dec 2019 at 17:47

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Dave

You can get an online next day delivery from Boots or The Incontenence shop which might save you some money. 

Thanks for that. Will try this out compare the prices.

User
Posted 27 Dec 2019 at 18:23

Techguy

Try wrapping the kitchen roll in a nappy liner, it will keep you dry and the tissue will not stick to you if wet. Sainsbury's sell nappy liners. If you have a small leak you dispose of the tissue and nappy liner.

Thanks Chris

 

User
Posted 27 Dec 2019 at 19:21

It's a tough call between drinking enough to keep your stools soft and not drinking so much you're leaking all the time. 

I stopped all alcohol for 6 months from Oct 16 to April 17 as well.  It wasn't as bad as I imagined.

Also I stopped drinking around 7pm every day although I never leaked at night.

At least I don't think I leaked at night but I wore Boots fairly thick pads for 5 months day and night.  In winter they're quite warm as well.

Here's a standard piece I found on a website:

'at first you're dry in bed and deteriorate through the day.  Over time the deterioration slows so you might be dry in the morning but wet in the afternoon and then dry all day, or at least relatively dry.  Most say 3 - 6 months for dry, but not everyone.'

 

Here's a personal quote, 2017, from my own website which is linked on my profile:

'With my level of stress incontinence I find the best incontinence pads 
are Boots medium super (marked with 5 drops out of 8).
They cost less than other makes that have less capacity so you might as well use them.
They are a bit bigger but aren't noticeable and they don't let you down. In winter they're warm as well.
I've used Medium 4 drops and found I had to change it earlier whereas the 5 drop one's last all day.
The very small ones are only good for in the house or overnight when I'm dry anyway.

Another trick is to make sure you pull the pad up after going to the loo.  I once didn't and got a damp spot down my leg.

Pad fullness is detected by weight. It can seem dry but if it's heavy it's near full.  You need to wear briefs and not boxers with a pad.

Also don't buy too many at one time.  My continence suddenly seemed a lot better but I've got 30 big pads left and could manage with a very small pad now, early May 2017.  Shame that once every few days there is an unexpected stress leak.'

 

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User
Posted 27 Dec 2019 at 19:28

They will be light pad so take your own supplies + towel for the car ride home. 

 

User
Posted 27 Dec 2019 at 19:29

I re-read my surgeons tech notes over the days/weeks following surgery. The Prof says evening can be leaky as your body and muscles get tired and tend to relax. He also said to reduce liquids after 7pm. Plus leaking common until the stitches start to break down (week 6) around the anastomosis/rebuilt bladder connection.

ive found kegel pelvic floor exercises help particularly with stress incontinence. I’ve learnt to hold when I cough/sneeze/pass_wind. 

definitely improvement over time.

Incidentally...I found kegels a lot easier to do for a few days learning while laying flat in bed.

Edited by member 27 Dec 2019 at 19:36  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 27 Dec 2019 at 20:32
Our urologist described it as like a sieve - until the new join in the urethra heals, fluid is going to drip through the holes. He said no amount of kegels will stop a sieve from leaking - once the join is healed, it is all about the brain learning the new signals. Stress incontinence can be improved by pelvic floor exercises, but not mechanical damage / confused nerve signals.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 28 Dec 2019 at 07:01

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Thanks for the advice. Just ordered the Tena 3 from Amazon - be here tommorow. My OH said they wouldn't give me something at the TWOC - but I suspect that these will be limited in number and somewhat inferior to Tena? Have been on light squashes and a morning tea since the OP. Had to do a caffeine detox as well!

I asked for some pads at the TWOC and they gave me a box of Tena 3.So Don, t forget to ask. You might be in luck.

User
Posted 28 Dec 2019 at 08:48

Hi Dave

I will admit during the earley stages after catheter removal I did have moments of concern. But kept going back and re-Reading the profs notes and time and time again the message was ‘time’. Seems this part is true so as I was advised by another chap who was a month ahead of me on the journey.....’just relax and be patient’ :-)

I have a pretty back lower back too thanks to Windsurfing and a faulty mast foot up haul line back in 2003. If your water works we’re fine before the prostate issues then fingers crossed should be where you can expect to get to once things have settled. Albeit with the odd stress related leak. 

Give it a few weeks. Apparently biggest progress curve is the six week mark when stitches start to dissolve then should also see slow improvement over the year as scar tissue settles.

No regrets as this was the best path and got the tumour out. Fingers crossed no cells went on a grand tour or strayed during biopsy/surgery.

Certainly feel a lot more relaxed this side of surgery that’s for sure :-)

User
Posted 30 Dec 2019 at 16:20

Sainsbury's and Asda sold the Tena mens grade 4 pull-ups that I used for a while during second half of RT and HDR brachytherapy. Often, one or other had a special offer. Finding where they were on the shelves was always an interesting challenge, and one of them listed the item on the receipt as female products (or some such).

They were overkill for me (I never let a bladder full go into one), but security was the main thing I was after - knowing I could pee into them if I had to. I did test one with half a litre of water and was very impressed. It soaked it up instantly, and you couldn't even wring a drop out.

User
Posted 30 Dec 2019 at 17:04

Like Andy I did a test on the Tenna 2 pads. I took my shoes, socks and trousers off, stood in the shower and let the bladder drain. The flow rate will make a difference, 170ml  at a slow flow may be contained, whereas 170ml at a fast flow will run down your leg. 

I do have a gripe with Tenna, they supposedly improved the range, ... by making the pads thinner.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 31 Dec 2019 at 10:53
Seems to me that you completely overdid things; going out 3 times in one day just two weeks after RP is bonkers. You may not look like you have had major surgery on the outside but on the inside, a lot of damage has been done and it needs time for everything to knit together. They say that it takes 5000 calories a day to recover from abdominal surgery. You are at a significantly increased risk of hernia and when you look at men here who have problems recovering their continence / erectile function they are often the ones who did too much in the early stages. Give your body a rest.
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 01 Jan 2020 at 15:51

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Be honest, did you enjoy rampant teenage sex when you were a teenager????? 🤣🤣🤣

Yes, with a lovely girl called Miss Palmer 😉

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 01 Jan 2020 at 23:08

Hi BHP

i noticed a little less but not as much as I expected. One of the first things I checked post op as expected a press stud. Post catheter removal already ‘test drove’ it with the good lady and she said it’s at 70%. Started on tadalafil daily. Prescribed was 5mg to flatten the curve of usually dose. I’m actually taking 2.5mg (snapped in half) a day. From day 5 I got semi erection even though some nerves were taken to increase margin. At the moment things exceed expectations and are penetratively useful. Not like the old days buts it’s still early days. 

I got a prescription for tadalafil but also bought privately as didn’t want to wait over Xmas period. 

TG

User
Posted 08 Jan 2020 at 16:26

Dave

Fantastic news! Massive positive step in the right direction. 

A good excuse to open a bottle of bubbly and have a nice meal 🙂

TG

User
Posted 08 Jan 2020 at 16:28

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Dave

Fantastic news! Massive positive step in the right direction. 

A good excuse to open a bottle of bubbly and have a nice meal 🙂

TG

Sound like a good idea

User
Posted 14 Jan 2020 at 21:43

So chuffed to read your good news!

I too had the result of my 6 week post op PSA reading today; 0.02 and confirmation of negative margin in the tissue removed with the prostate.  Next PSA blood test in 4 months when I hope the reading will be undetected.

User
Posted 21 Jan 2020 at 16:29

You are doing good for 6 weeks. One day at a time is progress. All the best in your recovery.

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User
Posted 07 Dec 2019 at 20:43

Check your temperature to see if raised, which might imply an infection.

Get another urine dip test done, and sample sent off for culture if it's not clear. Ask for an emergency GP appointment for this (justified because could impact pending operation).

It's not uncommon for antibiotics to fail to clear a UTI, unless you had a urine sample sent off for culturing and had to wait several days for the response to know which antibiotic to use.

User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 07:57

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Check your temperature to see if raised, which might imply an infection.

Get another urine dip test done, and sample sent off for culture if it's not clear. Ask for an emergency GP appointment for this (justified because could impact pending operation).

It's not uncommon for antibiotics to fail to clear a UTI, unless you had a urine sample sent off for culturing and had to wait several days for the response to know which antibiotic to use.

Thanks for the reply Andy.

                Although my temperature is fine I sure it will be a good idea to get another Urine test done just to be sure. I did however wait  5 days before previous results to come back and was told to get the correct antibiotics.

Just as a side note the problems also coincided with starting the pelvic floor exercise. and also have lower abdominal pain . I will try and get an emergency doctors appointment on Monday morning .As it seems the only logical way forward.

User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 13:43

Talk to the hospital urology dept. I had a small cold before op but so long as no lung involvement (productive cough, wheeziness) they were happy. I guess with potential STI you are on a broad spectrum antibiotic so might take a few days to get into system 


Thoughts for post surgery.

canturbury full length zip trousers have been a godsend when having to do anything in/out of the house with catheter bag. 

tena level 2 pads to stuff down pants 

tena bed pads although I haven’t leaked but good reassurance.

waterproof bed protector. I also bought hospital grade duvet and pillow which are waterproof but haven’t needed at all.

bucket for the overnight bag.

antispetic wipes.

general wipes so can wash and clean around pipes and generally downstairs,

surgical tape for statlock pipe retainers as the clips can come undone sometimes.

Traveljohn disposable urinal - really useful on train ride back for discretely emptying catheter bag without needing to use the facilities.

supportive pants - really useful for holding pipes and tena 2 pads in place and also if swollen testicles much more comfy.

pliers or a vice to hold end of clexane (self admin) as the caps can be hard to remove with two hands I found. Varies from unit to unit. 

stock up on plenty of ibuprofen and paracetamol.

Fruits, nuts, seeds, veg and dried fruit.

Anusol - can impact any minor haemorrhoids so will soothe this.

fybobgel, senna, lactulose syrup.

anybody suggest anything else?

User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 16:08
Thanks for the reply . Wish I new about this web site before I had the biopsy and had to wear a catheter for 5 days. As explained before it was really painful . Some great ideas so hopefully better prepared.

User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 16:28

Instilagel or hydrocaine if you are going to have a Urethral catheter and laxatives, both "may" be provided by your hospital. Ear plugs and eye mask for the night in hospital. You could try a do not disturb sign for night time but I don't think it will work.

A night bag "stand" to put in the bucket , putting the night bag in the bottom of a bucket or on the floor is not recommended. Again should/may be supplied by the hospital.

Hope all goes well.

Thanks Chris

User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 16:29

I guess you had a TRUS biopsy rather than template(TPM)?

i was lucky back in September as apart from bruising I had no blood in urine. But was warned it does happen depending on where the needle passes I guess.

i have a catheter in at the moment. Mostly ok apart from tip of penis where can get sore especially at night. I’m on day ten and mostly it’s fine but today after a 3k walk there is blood and bits of clots etc being flushed out. Key thing is drink plenty and if it appears to block change position Ie lay down/sideways of do a pronounced walk raising knees high for a bit to push the clot debris off the balloon end of catheter.

please shout if any questions as wonderful community here. That helped me a lot before my RARP and with some post op Q’s

Hope you feel better.

User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 16:43
I there a link on the website explaining the abbreviations?
User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 17:15

I don’t think so specifically but googling works.

TRUS - trans rectal ultrasound biopsy

TPM - Template mapping biopsy (via perineum)

RARP - robotic assisted radical prostatectomy 

hope that helps. 

User
Posted 08 Dec 2019 at 17:24
Cheers everyone for the great answers and links to Abbreviations hopefully some of them will stick haha
User
Posted 09 Dec 2019 at 09:01

Hi DaveBaxt

I hope you are feeling better and best wishes for your operation.  

TechGuy and I were in same hospital and had our RARP a day apart and I wanted to give you a morale boost by relaying my personal story here.

I had my RAPR removed at London Bridge.  Apart from shoulder pain - which many posts refer to and explain - some general tenderness around the wounds etc I had no significant bruising, swelling or other SE that are sometimes described.  I was able to stop all paracetamol and ibuprofen a week after the operation.  It turns out that RP was the right call as during the RP surgery the surgeon established that the cancer had spread outside the capsule - something that was not evident from MRI scan etc - and he took out some margin. I am now in the holding pattern of monitoring PSA results in 4 weeks time and quarterly thereafter to establish if in fact the surgeon got it all. Apparently Brachy would not have been an option if it had been established that my cancer had spread outside the capsule.

I had my catheter - I had the penile catheter rather than the supra pelvic one - removed last Thursday - 9 days after surgery - and this was a big relief.  I am delighted I am completely dry and in control.  No leaks or need for pads. 

And then last night was delighted to wake up during the night with a strong hard nocturnal erection!

So all good right now and I am feeling fine and strong.  I have been for walks on the beach, and been into town for Christmas market and even attended a Christmas drinks party on Saturday night.

Best wishes for your operation.

Grant

User
Posted 09 Dec 2019 at 09:30

Grant thanks for the reply which has boosted me. Great to hear you had no problems with the operation. Good luck for the future and hope you get the results you are waiting for.

User
Posted 09 Dec 2019 at 20:36

Update if anyone interested. Been to the Doctors after first being told there were no appointments available. I dialled 111 and they sorted out an appointment at the same Doctors although a different Doctor. How does that work?

Anyway turns out I have a tummy bug and have another lot of tablets to get through. I have also submitted another urine sample. Result after 48 hours. Fingers crossed I get the all clear and then all systems go for next Monday.

I am having a bit of a problem getting any Linocain or similar. I was unable to source any locally, so asked the doctor to subscribe some. He said I would get this from the hospital before I go home. Somehow I have my doubts.

User
Posted 09 Dec 2019 at 22:31

Happy to report my mojo appears to be returning too ever since a tingle the weekend following surgery albeit a bit painful with a catheter in. Other morning I was amazed but then tried and focus on something boring and dull so that it shrinks as catheter making it very sore.

I found with catheter just ensure you clip the Y section of the pipe correctly into the statlock. I screwed up first weekend after the op so bag kept slipping until the penny dropped causing some wear and tear to my chaps eye. I installed the spare statlock on other legs so alternate the bag on each leg night/day and appears to load balance the rubbing and soreness very well indeed.

When I spoke to the nurse about instagel and such like it was suggested Vaseline does a pretty similar job too but with a note of caution that anything introduced near the urethra can also introduce infection so best to go full sterile everything. 

I also had a problem with a statlok releasing all the time. Surgical tape across the clip sorted that.

Really impressed how fast recovery is thus far given just over ten days ago I had major surgery. But still mindful of following the Prof’s advice in respect of taking things easy for the prescribed time.

Good luck for next week and soon this will be all behind you. Hope you get the other issues resolved in the interim.

Look forward to the updates and to hear how you get on.

TG 

 

User
Posted 10 Dec 2019 at 06:59

TG Sounds like I had similar problems with my chaps eye after wearing a bag as you and just couldn't get comfortable. I couldn't even walk properly. Eventually I ended up changing the bag which gave some relief. One night the bag came off and soaked a brand new mattress. I think with all the messing about I am now having these problems. Hope I get them sorted before monday. I would just like to say thanks to everyone on this forum so far and any imput has been greatly appreciated. Best Regards Dave

User
Posted 10 Dec 2019 at 07:38

Dave and Techguy

Knowledge unfortunately sometimes comes from experience and like most post op guys a catheter was something new. 

Instilagel or hydrocaine contain anesthetic, antiseptic and lubricant so are far superior to vaseline. 

I have a permanent catheter and belong to a couple of forums, pipe disconnections are a common  experience. Personally I have only had about 3 disconnections in over a 1000 days of catheterisation. When I fit a new leg bag to the catheter I push it on as far as possible, check it a few hours later and the next day and it will usually go further in. With the night bag, I make sure the connection is tight and secure the night bag tube  pipe to the ankle.

Easy to say from some with a lot of catheter experience but I do  remember well being very gentle and tentative with the first post op catheter.

Hope your recovery continues.

Thanks Chris

 

User
Posted 10 Dec 2019 at 10:03

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Hi DaveBaxt

I hope you are feeling better and best wishes for your operation.  

TechGuy and I were in same hospital and had our RARP a day apart and I wanted to give you a morale boost by relaying my personal story here.

I had my RAPR removed at London Bridge.  Apart from shoulder pain - which many posts refer to and explain - some general tenderness around the wounds etc I had no significant bruising, swelling or other SE that are sometimes described.  I was able to stop all paracetamol and ibuprofen a week after the operation.  It turns out that RP was the right call as during the RP surgery the surgeon established that the cancer had spread outside the capsule - something that was not evident from MRI scan etc - and he took out some margin. I am now in the holding pattern of monitoring PSA results in 4 weeks time and quarterly thereafter to establish if in fact the surgeon got it all. Apparently Brachy would not have been an option if it had been established that my cancer had spread outside the capsule.

I had my catheter - I had the penile catheter rather than the supra pelvic one - removed last Thursday - 9 days after surgery - and this was a big relief.  I am delighted I am completely dry and in control.  No leaks or need for pads. 

And then last night was delighted to wake up during the night with a strong hard nocturnal erection!

So all good right now and I am feeling fine and strong.  I have been for walks on the beach, and been into town for Christmas market and even attended a Christmas drinks party on Saturday night.

Best wishes for your operation.

Grant

Which part is the Stalock, If this is the little white rubber clip that wraps around the pipe and has velcro attached which sticks to the strap around the leg. Basically attaches the pipe to the leg strap. I too needed to constantly re tighten this to ensure there was sufficient slack in the pipe. Bloody nuisance . I will therefore get some surgical tape and an extra leg strap too. I was only supplied with one last time.Hope this does the trick. Thanks again

 

User
Posted 10 Dec 2019 at 10:09

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Dave and Techguy

Knowledge unfortunately sometimes comes from experience and like most post op guys a catheter was something new. 

Instilagel or hydrocaine contain anesthetic, antiseptic and lubricant so are far superior to vaseline. 

I have a permanent catheter and belong to a couple of forums, pipe disconnections are a common  experience. Personally I have only had about 3 disconnections in over a 1000 days of catheterisation. When I fit a new leg bag to the catheter I push it on as far as possible, check it a few hours later and the next day and it will usually go further in. With the night bag, I make sure the connection is tight and secure the night bag tube  pipe to the ankle.

Easy to say from some with a lot of catheter experience but I do  remember well being very gentle and tentative with the first post op catheter.

Hope your recovery continues.

Thanks Chris

 

Nice one Chris and some really good tips. I am now feeling much more prepared. Thankyou

User
Posted 10 Dec 2019 at 10:37

This is the device. Place the Y section of catheter pipe with arrow pointing up. It holds the pipe in situ at the point of the split (urine/small inflator pipe) if that makes sense. https://www.bardcare.uk/consumers/products/view-products/catheter-securement/statlock/

how to install:

https://youtu.be/AsyA4Ijdalk

Edited by member 10 Dec 2019 at 10:40  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 10 Dec 2019 at 10:47

If you Google statlock you will see a picture of the fixation device, you will notice that the "Y" of the catheter is securely fixed in the clip and cannot be pulled out.

If you Google catheter strap, you will see the leg strap and notice that in 90 percent of the pictures the "Y" is not in the sub strap.   If the pipe is accidentally caught it will pull on the penis and urethra, it would take alot of force to pull it out, but will make your eyes water. If the Y is in the sub strap, there is no need to keep tightening the sub strap and the catheter is kept secure.

Just one thing to add not all catheters fit it the statlock device.

 

Thanks Chris

Edited by member 10 Dec 2019 at 10:50  | Reason: Not specified

 
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