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Retzius-Sparing Laparoscopic Radical Prostatectomy

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Posted 15 Jun 2018 at 15:48

Day 1: Monday 4th June 2018

 

Retzius-sparing Robot Assisted Laparoscopic Radical Prostatectomy on the NHS at the Royal Surrey County Hospital.

 

Seven hour wait - 9 hours “nil by mouth”. Three hour procedure. Minimal blood loss. Woke up in the recovery room around 5 pm, all wired up to life support monitors and umpteen pipes in and out of me via seven “keyholes” and multiple cannulas. Didn’t feel a thing as I had been injected with a spinal anaesthetic together with a general anaesthetic. Mouth very dry. Moved to General Surgery ward. Find out I have been treated to some “Manscaping” - a half Brazilian above my bollocks!

 

Day 2: On the ward. International nursing and support staff everywhere - nurses from Uzbekistan, Spain, the Philippines and India. Where would the NHS be without them? Surgeon says op went very well, and he was able to perform nerve-sparing as well as Retzius-sparing procedures during my surgery, which my local urologist said would not be possible using the techniques he practices. In bed all day connected to drips and drains. First three drains removed, I thought I was being disembowelled for a few minutes! I could have been discharged that night, but as I had a long car journey home, the consultant and I agreed I should stay another night. First fart, followed by loads more. They inflate your abdomen with gas so as to form “a cathedral” so they have a workspace. The gas has to find its own way out, sometimes over a period of weeks!

 

Day 3: Discharged with enough drugs to open a pharmacy. 115 miles journey home. Felt every speed hump, pot-hole and drain cover! Stopped at two pubs on the way to recover from the battering. There were various vitamin pills, laxatives, ibuprofen, tablets to prevent stomach damage from ibuprofen, fibre gel drinks - didn’t need any of them, save the occasional paracetamol. Also a plumbers’ merchant’s full of pipework, valves and taps and bags for the catheter. There was also 28 day’s worth of a self-administered anti-coagulant injection. The needle is so fine you can hardly see the exit point on your thigh, and no bleeding. I am a big baby, but I hardly feel a thing

 

Day 4: First bowel movement. Less discomfort. Suspect I had stomach ache due to disruption of my peristaltic bowel action as a result of the anaesthetics and surgery, rather than the surgery itself. Urine now looks normal, no longer pink - a good sign? The hospital blurb on discharge states you can be peeing blood for up to two weeks. Suspect my surgeon and his sidekick da Vinci are very good at internal needlework. Weigh myself, have put on two pounds despite eating barely anything in hospital as my mouth was so dry. Perhaps all the intravenous drips I was connected to were packed with calories!

 

Day 5: Up at 2am, as the night catheter bag wasn’t filling properly. Turns out the tube was kinked in bed by my tight underpants. I go commando now. No need for any pads....yet. Taken to going commando in the day too, and wearing braces as my belt irritates the still-sutured keyholes. Had a slight temperature of 99.8°F and felt sleepy. A couple of paracetamol sorted that, but I didn’t leave the house till 3.30 in the afternoon.

 

Day 6: Virtually back to normal. Cannot believe I had major abdominal surgery less than six days ago. Still get a twinge when I cough. Penis is now badly bruised and has taken umbrage at his sexual assault by an automaton, and withdrawn into my swollen scrotum like a frightened tortoise’s head. When I say “back to normal”, I wonder if my surgeon does penis extensions? Shrinkage is supposed to improve with time. If not, you may see me on a future episode of “Embarrassing Bodies”! Out supermarket shopping and then off to the pub. Felt a bit tired in the late afternoon.

 

Day 7: Slept right through from 10pm to 4am (normal for me) and have now got used to the catheter pipework and can sleep on any side. Mr Tortoise is poking his head out to see what’s what. More supermarket shopping, cooking full English, then off to the pub. Starting to get the occasional dribble of wee from my urethra - at least that shows it’s all reconnected up properly!

 

Day 8: Tired again this morning, but every day the slight discomfort and itching around the stitched-up keyholes improves.

 

Day 9: Today is a big day. At 9 am I am to turn off the drain tap to the catheter bag and allow my bladder to fill and begin to micturate normally. I have to record the times and amounts of urine passed. Her Loveliness says: “I hope you won’t be using my measuring jugs”. I did point out that urine is sterile and promised to put them through a dishwasher hot wash before putting them back in the kitchen cupboard. 08.30: Catheter bag stop-tap closed. 09.36 first normal urination through a swollen (and shrunken) penis. 100ml, since you ask. Amazed that I can stop and start as before my op, with no “razor blade” sensation. A bit disappointed a little later when a sly fart resulted in a bit of a dribble. Still, this is day 1 without the bag. Bag is binned, and various micturitions (unquantified) have taken place around Coventry. I am wearing the very slimmest Tena pad, which is just as well, as contractions of my anal sphincter seem to encourage a dribble from my urethral sphincter. No problems with coughs or sneezes though.

 

Day 10: Supra-pubic catheter removal. My local hospital has agreed to do it so I don’t have a 230 miles round-trip for a quick out-patient procedure. The nurse rips it out, brief sensation like a needle. Dressing applied and my treatment is complete. My first wee is pinkish with tiny spots of clots. Continence is good, incompetence is the same as before the operation!

 

I am amazed at the speed of my recuperation and at the skill of my surgeon who facilitated it, and so thankful to our often maligned, over-subscribed and under-funded NHS. I honestly feel almost as well as I did the day before my surgery, only 10 days ago. I had no symptoms then.

 

Follow-up meeting with surgeon is due in July, to discuss the histology of the removed gland and the way forward. As I had 42 cores sampled during my template biopsy, I doubt whether my overall score or grading will change much. 

 

Hopefully I am “cured”, but I am starting to wonder if PCa ever really goes away “forever”. Recurrence rates are quoted for 5 and 10 years, given specific parameters, but not for 30 years. Not that I expect to live to 92.....

 

But on from that? I remember what was said when Ronald Reagan had pre-cancerous lesions (polyps) removed from his bowel years ago. “If everyone lived to 150 everyone would have bowel cancer”.

 

Fortunately, I have just had the all-clear from the NHS “s***-on-a-stick” bowel cancer screening programme!

 

Keep breathing.

 

Cheers, John.

 

 

Edited by member 16 Jun 2018 at 03:12  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 15 Jun 2018 at 15:48

Day 1: Monday 4th June 2018

 

Retzius-sparing Robot Assisted Laparoscopic Radical Prostatectomy on the NHS at the Royal Surrey County Hospital.

 

Seven hour wait - 9 hours “nil by mouth”. Three hour procedure. Minimal blood loss. Woke up in the recovery room around 5 pm, all wired up to life support monitors and umpteen pipes in and out of me via seven “keyholes” and multiple cannulas. Didn’t feel a thing as I had been injected with a spinal anaesthetic together with a general anaesthetic. Mouth very dry. Moved to General Surgery ward. Find out I have been treated to some “Manscaping” - a half Brazilian above my bollocks!

 

Day 2: On the ward. International nursing and support staff everywhere - nurses from Uzbekistan, Spain, the Philippines and India. Where would the NHS be without them? Surgeon says op went very well, and he was able to perform nerve-sparing as well as Retzius-sparing procedures during my surgery, which my local urologist said would not be possible using the techniques he practices. In bed all day connected to drips and drains. First three drains removed, I thought I was being disembowelled for a few minutes! I could have been discharged that night, but as I had a long car journey home, the consultant and I agreed I should stay another night. First fart, followed by loads more. They inflate your abdomen with gas so as to form “a cathedral” so they have a workspace. The gas has to find its own way out, sometimes over a period of weeks!

 

Day 3: Discharged with enough drugs to open a pharmacy. 115 miles journey home. Felt every speed hump, pot-hole and drain cover! Stopped at two pubs on the way to recover from the battering. There were various vitamin pills, laxatives, ibuprofen, tablets to prevent stomach damage from ibuprofen, fibre gel drinks - didn’t need any of them, save the occasional paracetamol. Also a plumbers’ merchant’s full of pipework, valves and taps and bags for the catheter. There was also 28 day’s worth of a self-administered anti-coagulant injection. The needle is so fine you can hardly see the exit point on your thigh, and no bleeding. I am a big baby, but I hardly feel a thing

 

Day 4: First bowel movement. Less discomfort. Suspect I had stomach ache due to disruption of my peristaltic bowel action as a result of the anaesthetics and surgery, rather than the surgery itself. Urine now looks normal, no longer pink - a good sign? The hospital blurb on discharge states you can be peeing blood for up to two weeks. Suspect my surgeon and his sidekick da Vinci are very good at internal needlework. Weigh myself, have put on two pounds despite eating barely anything in hospital as my mouth was so dry. Perhaps all the intravenous drips I was connected to were packed with calories!

 

Day 5: Up at 2am, as the night catheter bag wasn’t filling properly. Turns out the tube was kinked in bed by my tight underpants. I go commando now. No need for any pads....yet. Taken to going commando in the day too, and wearing braces as my belt irritates the still-sutured keyholes. Had a slight temperature of 99.8°F and felt sleepy. A couple of paracetamol sorted that, but I didn’t leave the house till 3.30 in the afternoon.

 

Day 6: Virtually back to normal. Cannot believe I had major abdominal surgery less than six days ago. Still get a twinge when I cough. Penis is now badly bruised and has taken umbrage at his sexual assault by an automaton, and withdrawn into my swollen scrotum like a frightened tortoise’s head. When I say “back to normal”, I wonder if my surgeon does penis extensions? Shrinkage is supposed to improve with time. If not, you may see me on a future episode of “Embarrassing Bodies”! Out supermarket shopping and then off to the pub. Felt a bit tired in the late afternoon.

 

Day 7: Slept right through from 10pm to 4am (normal for me) and have now got used to the catheter pipework and can sleep on any side. Mr Tortoise is poking his head out to see what’s what. More supermarket shopping, cooking full English, then off to the pub. Starting to get the occasional dribble of wee from my urethra - at least that shows it’s all reconnected up properly!

 

Day 8: Tired again this morning, but every day the slight discomfort and itching around the stitched-up keyholes improves.

 

Day 9: Today is a big day. At 9 am I am to turn off the drain tap to the catheter bag and allow my bladder to fill and begin to micturate normally. I have to record the times and amounts of urine passed. Her Loveliness says: “I hope you won’t be using my measuring jugs”. I did point out that urine is sterile and promised to put them through a dishwasher hot wash before putting them back in the kitchen cupboard. 08.30: Catheter bag stop-tap closed. 09.36 first normal urination through a swollen (and shrunken) penis. 100ml, since you ask. Amazed that I can stop and start as before my op, with no “razor blade” sensation. A bit disappointed a little later when a sly fart resulted in a bit of a dribble. Still, this is day 1 without the bag. Bag is binned, and various micturitions (unquantified) have taken place around Coventry. I am wearing the very slimmest Tena pad, which is just as well, as contractions of my anal sphincter seem to encourage a dribble from my urethral sphincter. No problems with coughs or sneezes though.

 

Day 10: Supra-pubic catheter removal. My local hospital has agreed to do it so I don’t have a 230 miles round-trip for a quick out-patient procedure. The nurse rips it out, brief sensation like a needle. Dressing applied and my treatment is complete. My first wee is pinkish with tiny spots of clots. Continence is good, incompetence is the same as before the operation!

 

I am amazed at the speed of my recuperation and at the skill of my surgeon who facilitated it, and so thankful to our often maligned, over-subscribed and under-funded NHS. I honestly feel almost as well as I did the day before my surgery, only 10 days ago. I had no symptoms then.

 

Follow-up meeting with surgeon is due in July, to discuss the histology of the removed gland and the way forward. As I had 42 cores sampled during my template biopsy, I doubt whether my overall score or grading will change much. 

 

Hopefully I am “cured”, but I am starting to wonder if PCa ever really goes away “forever”. Recurrence rates are quoted for 5 and 10 years, given specific parameters, but not for 30 years. Not that I expect to live to 92.....

 

But on from that? I remember what was said when Ronald Reagan had pre-cancerous lesions (polyps) removed from his bowel years ago. “If everyone lived to 150 everyone would have bowel cancer”.

 

Fortunately, I have just had the all-clear from the NHS “s***-on-a-stick” bowel cancer screening programme!

 

Keep breathing.

 

Cheers, John.

 

 

Edited by member 16 Jun 2018 at 03:12  | Reason: Not specified

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Posted 06 Jul 2018 at 19:54

It’s very early to expect complete dryness John.

 

your route is different from mine, I went to Leipzig University Hospital to a world renowned Professor (easy to look up)

they had some advanced techniques in the way they re/stitched the bladder as well as a technique called “frozen sections” where they sent tissues off for testing during the operation to ensure clear margins

after the op,  I was T2c with clear margins, completey dry at 7 weeks and fully functionally sexually at 7 months.

all was going great till recurrence nearly 3 years down the line, had radiotherapy recently and on HT for 2 years

 

damn disease......

 

 

User
Posted 23 Oct 2018 at 10:05
oh and you forgot to mention that the amazing mpMRI that you advise everyone to insist on failed to spot that you had locally advanced spread and you will probably need salvage treatment :-/

Also worth noting that the surgeon may or may not be the best in the world but is unusual in that he employs PR people to do his marketing.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 16 Jun 2018 at 17:02
Despite the other stuff, I am genuinely pleased that your op has gone so well this far and I think it is looking like a very exciting development for those to be diagnosed in the future. Personally, I wouldn't let a surgeon that only does 70 ops a year anywhere near someone I love :-/
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 16 Jun 2018 at 19:11
Re your comment on another thread -

Fair point on the 'where do they cut' - I didn't know that it could be done through the belly. Some surgeons do Retzius through the perineum and the comparison reports in 2016/17 were between Retzius sparing and 'old style' perineal RP.

I have never named a specific surgeon as a rogue or suggested that you would be inundated with messages saying so - what I have said many times is that members should stick to the very few rules which include not naming surgeons or other medical staff, and that one member felt his life had been ruined and subsequently had no support at all from his (private) surgeon who refused to even see him again. It is important (in my opinion) that we don't post things that could open PCUK to any legal challenges or disrepute.

But it is exciting for us all when there is a new breakthrough and we can chart another member's progress / experience so I will continue to wish you well.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 21 Jun 2018 at 11:59
The one painful sutured keyhole wound has become infected because the stitches didn’t dissolve as they should have done. Now on antibiotics. The only setback in the whole procedure. No problem really.
User
Posted 21 Jun 2018 at 13:43
I hope the antibiotics kick in soon - at least you can sleep on your side
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 21 Jun 2018 at 15:15

John

I was initially 99 percent dry 4 days after Catheter removal, I did still wear a pad for some time perhaps because I had been given 120 of them. On occasions it paid dividends, when I bent picking up something off the floor when sat on a office chair or perhaps getting something awkward out of the car or stuck in a traffic jam.

Hope you don't need them and good luck with your recovery.

Thanks Chris

 

 

 

User
Posted 19 Aug 2018 at 17:16

Dear Blighty

I had robot prostatectomy on the 16th August and feel fine. Make sure you take plenty of laxatives as bloating/constipation were the worst problems in the first few days. I have just delivered twin aubergines and am much more comfortable!

Hope all goes well.

Pitchpole

User
Posted 20 Aug 2018 at 15:23
Blighty,

Best wishes for the 3rd.

As for Pitchpole's advice, I second the motion......

The condition of your lower bowels has a big effect on comfort levels and empty or nearly empty is the preferred state!

Nick

User
Posted 23 Oct 2018 at 22:33
Bit harsh Lyn. I for one hope Bollinge has a durable remission without further treatment.. even if you and him won't go for a USPSA!!
User
Posted 30 Oct 2018 at 16:57
John, have you tried the QE at Brum? It also has a very good urologist and PET scanning. Dunno about the PSA testing, tho'.

AC

User
Posted 30 Oct 2018 at 22:06
Wolverhampton New Cross do it..
User
Posted 09 Sep 2019 at 10:50
Latest PSA test, #7 after surgery in June 2018, <0.1, “undetectable”, so in the words of the song, I am “Getting Away With It”.

So far...

Cheers, John

User
Posted 05 Dec 2019 at 11:05
Eighteen month post-operative PSA test result is <0.1, undetectable, as is my erectile function. Hey ho.

Looks like Da Vinci did a good job together with his sidekick Professor Whocannotbenamedhere. I’m sending DaVinci a Christmas card, together with a Christmas drink - a Poundland can of WD40...

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 25 Mar 2020 at 21:50
Good God - have I really only had to tolerate you for 21 months? It seems so much longer.

Truly happy for you - great result 👍

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 08 Aug 2020 at 06:01

Lexi, if your results are more than 1 decimal place they are "supersensitive" eg <0.03 or <0.008 are all "good" super sensitive results. If it'd only 1 decimal place eg <0.1 it's good but not supersensitive.

Be careful with that G5 in your Gleason score early treatment of any relapse detected by supersensitive testing could be beneficial. A good example is Ulsterman. Bolinges approach is also valid but less so the higher the Gleason IMHO. I have recently switched to the Bolinge method BUT I am 5 years down the line and G6. Unfortunately there is no one size fits all in PCA and no one should ever think they are cured until they die of something else!

User
Posted 08 Aug 2020 at 08:10

Excellent news. 

Ido4

User
Posted 01 Dec 2020 at 21:01
Poor Hayley :-(
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 01 Dec 2020 at 21:08

Great result 👍🏼

User
Posted 02 Dec 2020 at 23:53

Long may it be undetectable

User
Posted 17 Jan 2021 at 11:46

He’s a great guy and says it how it is. I spoke to him before Xmas for quarterly review and he said he is still busy with RARPs both privately and NHS albeit with Covid secure processes. 

Retzius technique was co-developed by two urological surgeons (Italian and South Korean) The prof has spent a lot of time with them and regularly meets at conferences to give instruction and demos. He was due to travel around the US with some of them last year but not sure if that happened with the travel restrictions. 

I’d be tempted to just get a second opinion as that always seems prudent. I know the Prof has a clinic at BMI Basingstoke but worth posing the question.

Just be mindful that even with a high volume surgeon with great skills still doesn’t make them a miracle worker. With me there was more work to be done than the MRI/biopsy revealed and we are only as good as the last PSA bloods. All you can really do is loads the dice 🎲 as much as possible if your favour 🤖

Edited by member 17 Jan 2021 at 11:48  | Reason: Not specified

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Posted 15 Jun 2018 at 17:03

That's absolutely fantastic news, John! Many congratulations on an obviously very skilful surgeon and such a swift recovery.

Chris

User
Posted 15 Jun 2018 at 19:33

John

Sounds like an improvement on the conventional DaVinci and a bonus not having a urethral Catheter. 


 “I hope you won’t be using my measuring jugs”. I did point out that urine is sterile and promised to put them through a dishwasher hot wash before putting them back in the kitchen cupboard."

As a member did point out to me a few years ago on the subject of measuring jugs " the Yorkshire puddings never tasted the same afterwards"

Take it easy but not too easy.

Thanks Chris

Edited by member 15 Jun 2018 at 19:34  | Reason: Missing word

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Posted 16 Jun 2018 at 04:56

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

John

Sounds like an improvement on the conventional DaVinci and a bonus not having a urethral Catheter. 

Yes, having felt the after-effects of urethral catheter insertion and removal during my template operation, I shudder to think what it must be like to wear one for up to two weeks whilst awake. When I was having my supra-pubic removed there were helpful leaflets in the room entitled “Self-catheterisation”. Ugh!

User
Posted 16 Jun 2018 at 11:03

Interesting and well written account.  I read your profile.  Good of the surgeon to take you from private to NHS, that once happened to me with a skin cancer but some seem to have problems transferring.   

You were very persistent and tolerant of your condition to wait for the treatment.   I couldn't have done it, if the Barber of Seville had been offered the day after I'd have been in. 

All the best.

Peter

User
Posted 16 Jun 2018 at 12:45

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

I couldn't have done it, if the Barber of Seville had been offered the day after I'd have been in. 

All the best.

Peter

Yes, and I wonder if I would have ended up with the “Barber of Seville”, if I had been supine and done what they say is best for me.

The local surgeon here does around 70 RPs a year, and it was difficult to establish outcomes of his track-record. The surgeon who “did” me does 300-400 procedures all over the world annually, and his results are well publicised, as I am doing right here.

The nice registrar who did my template biopsy became a Consultant Surgeon this April, and I wonder how long it will be before he is let loose on his own on the general pubic (geddit?).

I read here of pain, nausea, rectal and urethral bleeding, two or three week catheters, year-long incontinence, months-long recuperation, yet here I am, 12 days post-op with none of the above, and I feel as well as I did on Sunday 3rd June, prior to my op.

User
Posted 16 Jun 2018 at 17:02
Despite the other stuff, I am genuinely pleased that your op has gone so well this far and I think it is looking like a very exciting development for those to be diagnosed in the future. Personally, I wouldn't let a surgeon that only does 70 ops a year anywhere near someone I love :-/
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 16 Jun 2018 at 19:11
Re your comment on another thread -

Fair point on the 'where do they cut' - I didn't know that it could be done through the belly. Some surgeons do Retzius through the perineum and the comparison reports in 2016/17 were between Retzius sparing and 'old style' perineal RP.

I have never named a specific surgeon as a rogue or suggested that you would be inundated with messages saying so - what I have said many times is that members should stick to the very few rules which include not naming surgeons or other medical staff, and that one member felt his life had been ruined and subsequently had no support at all from his (private) surgeon who refused to even see him again. It is important (in my opinion) that we don't post things that could open PCUK to any legal challenges or disrepute.

But it is exciting for us all when there is a new breakthrough and we can chart another member's progress / experience so I will continue to wish you well.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 18 Jun 2018 at 12:03

On day 15, I have to report two minor setbacks.

The first is that of the seven keyhole perforations, one has become a problem. When the nurse removed the catheter on day 10, she said all the wounds were healing fine. I enquired about the sutures, and was told: “They’ll dissolve”.

The next day my skin was being pinched where on one keyhole they hadn’t dissolved, and I had to have them removed by the GP nurse two days later. That wound is still sore and slightly weeping. A friend told me “my stitches never dissolve and I always have to have them removed manually”. Perhaps I am the same, due to my dry sense of humour!

The second is that whilst I am completely dry and continent during the day, I have had some leakage at night into the smallest Tena pad, although this morning it was completely dry. Early days I suppose, and apart from the oedema and scabbing on my abdomen, I feel absolutely fine.

P.S. John Thomas is still in hibernation, possibly in mourning for his bosom buddy Tommy the Tumour. Maybe I can tempt him out to play come the summer.

Edited by member 18 Jun 2018 at 15:07  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 18 Jun 2018 at 13:53

not a thought I need in my head! 

User
Posted 18 Jun 2018 at 22:31

New technique or not Bollinge, your inners have been through a trauma and will need lots of time to recover

 

sounds good so far tho

 

 

 

 

 

User
Posted 18 Jun 2018 at 22:46

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

New technique or not Bollinge, your inners have been through a trauma and will need lots of time to recover

sounds good so far though 

Thank you Bill, and my innards seem absolutely fine. I don’t know if this complex “Retzius” is a revolutionary procedure to be adopted universally in years to come - maybe the robot will do all the work in the future - but as far as I am concerned, I am recovered, and even that annoying weeping keyhole has healed today and is no longer a problem.

I look forward to sleeping on my favoured right hand side tonight!

Edited by member 19 Jun 2018 at 04:01  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 20 Jun 2018 at 09:41
One week after catheter removal and sixteen days post-op, I am dry day and night.

I am going to be a big brave boy and ditch the pads today. I only bought a box of 14 Tena extra light pads and have three left. Keyhole scars very itchy though.

I think I may be party to a miracle, and it will truly be a miracle if the Big C doesn’t come back.

Cheers, John.

User
Posted 21 Jun 2018 at 11:59
The one painful sutured keyhole wound has become infected because the stitches didn’t dissolve as they should have done. Now on antibiotics. The only setback in the whole procedure. No problem really.
User
Posted 21 Jun 2018 at 13:43
I hope the antibiotics kick in soon - at least you can sleep on your side
"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User
Posted 21 Jun 2018 at 15:15

John

I was initially 99 percent dry 4 days after Catheter removal, I did still wear a pad for some time perhaps because I had been given 120 of them. On occasions it paid dividends, when I bent picking up something off the floor when sat on a office chair or perhaps getting something awkward out of the car or stuck in a traffic jam.

Hope you don't need them and good luck with your recovery.

Thanks Chris

 

 

 

User
Posted 27 Jun 2018 at 05:38
23 days after the operation I am still completely dry, but there has been a surprising development.

Although I only bled for two days after the op into the catheter, over the last week I have been intermittently been peeing red and brown blood with an occasional clot. The nurse says this is normal and is the result of internal stitches dissolving.

I am on my last day of antibiotics for the infected keyhole wound, and I had to go to the nurse again yesterday as two more very fine stitches were poking out of it and they were irritating me. In total, I have had to have nine “dissolvable” stitches removed because they didn’t dissolve!

User
Posted 04 Jul 2018 at 10:10

Hi John

 

I'm having the same procedure at the same location 31st July thanks for the info

 

Cheers

 

Bob

User
Posted 04 Jul 2018 at 10:19

If the Professor is doing your procedure, rest assured you are in the very capable robotic hands of one of the finest surgeons in Europe.

Four weeks on I am absolutely fine, although I have been signed off for five more weeks.

Best of luck!

Cheers, John

Edited by member 05 Jul 2018 at 09:47  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 05 Jul 2018 at 09:46
Surprised to have woken up with a damp patch in bed this morning, and it wasn’t a wet dream!

Looks like the last three or four of the box of fourteen Tena light pads I bought three weeks ago may still be put to use........Still, early days.

Cheers, John

 
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