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Docetaxel Chemo – the highs and the lows

User
Posted 17 Jan 2017 at 22:22
I have said it before and yes I will say it again your no nonsense / humorous/ and down to earth thread is a real help to others who might be going through or embarking on chemo.
Keep going David you are a little ray of sunshine.
BFN
Julie X
NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
User
Posted 17 Jan 2017 at 23:34

Great update Col - nearly half time already!

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
User
Posted 18 Jan 2017 at 08:50


Now you're talking!


I played hockey for 40 seasons, from ages 15 to 54, at which point my knees said enough, no more.


We always had orange segments at half time.


Life got more interesting at 40 since at that age you are classified as a 'veteran' in hockey terms. Most clubs have veteran teams. The nice thing about being a vet was that you still had orange segments at half time but you also shared a bottle of port. http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif


I've got half a bottle of 10 year old tawny port left over from Crimbo. I'll get it out at this half time.

Edited by member 18 Jan 2017 at 09:21  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 18 Jan 2017 at 20:44

There's something you need to know about me. I worked for all my career in IT, therefore, I like to think I'm a fairly logical person.


My hero is Spock and I don't mean the Doctor. I have (virtual) green blood in my veins.


The upshot of this is I can't look at data and not want to analyse it.


Mrs_C has an alternative explanation for my data affliction, she says I'm anally retentive. http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-surprised.gif


Anyway, I've submitted to the need to analyse my PSA data that you can find in my profile by clicking on my name.


I've produced a couple of graphs that you can find from the links below. I list what I've learnt from each one. 


https://imageshack.com/i/pnwJ0WkAp


This shows my complete PSA record together with the starts and stops of various treatments. One major point that could be of interest to you relates to Enzalutamide. If your PSA starts rising a few months after starting it, don't despair, it (Enzalutamide) can mount a counter attack.


The graph seems to indicate that my PSA is going to rocket down to zero in the near future now I'm on chemo. This is probably false and is caused by the narrow date range scale. The next graph shows a truer position. 


https://imageshack.com/i/poajE96Zp


This suggests the drop in PSA is leveling out and the data leads me to believe that this will be somewhere around 4.5.


If correct, the question will then be, will we bump along the bottom for a while or will we see a rise and the development of a 'normal curve'.

Edited by member 19 Jan 2017 at 11:33  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 18 Jan 2017 at 20:47

From another hockey vet - 53 year old playing for his county! I recall scoring a couple of goals on a water based pitch in my County call-up at that advanced age. I had to give up when my left shoulder was wrecked landing hard on one hand after neither the goalie or I would compromise in a certain collision. I suffered. He didn't - well padded. Decided at 55 that I should leave it to the kids. I never heard of port at half time. If I had known of this I'd probably be playing still, 20 years on.... But perhaps in a bit of a daze.

Keep up the good work and great posts!

AC in Price.

User
Posted 18 Jan 2017 at 20:59

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


I never heard of port at half time.



I played for Berkhamsted in Hertfordshire. The port was quite a tradition with the Vets teams in our local area.

User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 15:41

Infusion 4 Day 5


The pattern continues. Day 4  and I felt crappy. More serious was, I opened one bottle of beer and it didn't taste that great.


Woooaaahhhh! This is not an acceptable side effect. If it continues I'll be on to 999. http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif


Today, after a decent night's sleep and I feel less crappy than yesterday. We're off to The Cannon in Newton Poppleford for dinner tonight. They serve two real ales directly from the barrel (the absolute best way to have your ale served, no lines or beer engines). Somehow, I think this will give me just the lift I need. Fingers crossed.

Edited by member 21 Jan 2017 at 15:44  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 15:49

Bound to work! Your dedication to the real ale diet does you credit and, I'm sure, gives hope to many!


Enjoy tonight's outing.


E


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User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 16:17

Sounds perfect, my OH loves a decent pint of ale, he had a brewery on tower bridge in London in the 70s.
I'm sure it's does yer good. We were drinking spingo ale last week..along with some others I can't remember, as I moved on to red wine.. I love beer but volume is a bit too much for me🍻🍺🥂he was telling me about a beer tour when he went to the midlands to sample a pint of ale all the way from south London. Now that's dedication in my book.
Have a good evening, I hope it perks you up.

User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 16:42

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
he had a brewery on tower bridge in London in the 70s.



Nice one! If OH was in London in the 70's, did he ever visit the The Youngs brewery in Wandsworth? I went in 1977, the best brewery visit I've ever done - the ram, the shires that delivered the beer to the local pubs, the geese who were the burglar alarm and the working beam engine. I can still taste the Young's Special in the tasting room now. Heaven.


All gone now, Youngs made at Charlie Wells in Bedford, not a patch on what it was.

User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 16:58

Leila,


Seeing as you are in west Wales, have you ever been here:


http://www.threetunsbrewery.co.uk/home.htm


It really is a beautiful brewery.


 

User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 17:14

Certainly have, we were there the weekend they opened it... quite a few years ago. I lived in Shropshire a long time ago, and we went back for a holiday, and I somehow managed to arrange for us to be there when it opened. They had live music too, so he was in his element pro musician playing for the opening of brewery.
I like Bishps Castle, and the surrounding areas.

Leila

User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 17:35
Off main topic I know but does anyone remember the All Nations in Madeley or the White Swan, Netherton (Doris Pardoe's)?
User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 19:42
Love it Guys ! Forget the Chemo let's go on a Pub Crawl . 😄😄👏👏
BFN
Julie X
NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
User
Posted 21 Jan 2017 at 20:18

Works for me Julie.

User
Posted 31 Jan 2017 at 09:10

Infusion 4 Day 15


Current status of side effects.


Bruising at the canula site - Much improved compared to last time. A bruise came out but quickly disappeared. Credit to the chemo nurse who told me to press down firmly using a thumb and a cotton wool ball for at least two minutes on the canula site once the canula had been removed.


Peripheral neuropathy - No better or worse.


Nail changes -  I'm getting some discoloration on my finger nails as well as my toe nails. However, there are no signs of any ridges on the nails and the nail bed looks healthy so hopefully I'm not going to suffer from nail loss.


Hair loss - It seems to have stopped coming out! Woop woop! However, what's left would best be described a bum fluff rather than hair. My hairdresser tells me that strange things can happen to your hair after chemo ends. It seems that previously straight hair can become curly and mouse coloured hair can become dark. So, come June, I expect I'll wake up one morning, look in the mirror and see an afro or a mohican.

User
Posted 31 Jan 2017 at 10:33

It is great to follow your progress and your positive attitude inspires.

I am slightly ahead of you on the Chemo front. I am on infusion 5 day 7. Must say infusion 5 was the worst to date from a tiredness and bone ache perspective, but feeling good enough today to go for a long walk.

All best wishes

Dave

"Incurable cancer does not mean it is untreatable and does not mean it is terminal either"
User
Posted 31 Jan 2017 at 10:48

Dave,


Your PSA reduction whilst on chemo is spectacularly good. What does your Onco think about it and does it give hope for a decent period of remission?


I see you are having 6 cycles of docetaxel whereas my Onco is planning 10 cycles. Did your Onco explain why it was going to be 6 rather than 10?


David

User
Posted 31 Jan 2017 at 11:04

David,

Onco is delighted by fall in Psa as am I of course.

I was told that 6 cycles would be preferable at this stage, no more.

I believe I will have a further Pet scan when chemo over with, so they can reassess

My thoughts on Chemo for those worried about it, its not as scary as I thought it would be and well worth the effort.

Not sure if you agree David?

Kind regards

Dave

"Incurable cancer does not mean it is untreatable and does not mean it is terminal either"
User
Posted 31 Jan 2017 at 11:48

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member
My thoughts on Chemo for those worried about it, its not as scary as I thought it would be and well worth the effort.


Not sure if you agree David?


I do agree.

 
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