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Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 20:45

Many on the forum have given up dairy believing it is not good for men who have PCa. However, we are now told that trans fats in margarine are are bad for other reasons. Butter seems to be becoming more popular again at the expense of Margarine. How do you see this and what goes on your toast other than marmalade?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3420251/How-great-butter-revival-killing-margarine-turnaround-expert-health-advice-means-popular-spread-soon-toast.html

Barry

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Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 12:36

hey up luther
its just your lass doing what she thinks best arnt they just great our OH's dealing with all this, tell my OH each day that I love her, makes her smile every time

regards
nidge

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

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Posted 05 Feb 2016 at 20:24

Ermm
I don't trust anyone that doesn't like olives , and sadomasochism R US hahaa.
I can just see you spreading on your butter in the morning with a wry smile as poor John looks at his Pure , which may just as well be polymer based tbh :--))

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

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Posted 05 Feb 2016 at 22:28

Hi Barry,

Ok so I am not a man , laying that aside I also don't have PCa so I thought I would do a Trevor versus me comparison

Oh Dear I won't come out very good

Butter

Me - yes

Trevor -no always had alternative spreads, olive oil , healthy low fat uber good for you.

Fish

Me - no sorry I don't do fish

Trevor- yep any kind , head on , scales , eyes you name it he eats it. (It makes me feel sick)

.Cream

Me - Absolutely, I love it , how can you have a fancy desert with out cream

Trevor - Trevor hates cream he was not brought up with cream and Hates thetaste and texture even when it is whipped

Fat on meat.

Oh my goodness , pork chops, belly pork , fat on a lamb joint, I am there.

Me - yes , yes , yes , yes.

Trevor , never not in a million years , it would make him gag.

Fruit

Me , I know this sounds weird but when I am Holliday I love it, any kind of fruit , sadly I don't go on holiday that often.

Trevor - I every day at least 8/9 portions always has done.

So conclusion is I probably won't make the end of the week and Trevor will live forever, 😉

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON

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User

Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 21:20

Butter every time. It has been much maligned and margarine is awful. I love butter and know I may be having too much but does it matter given my timescales! Toast and butter, no other condiments needed, perfect.

User

Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 21:24

Freezing cold toast , preferably slightly burnt , and I adore butter. Having said that I don't think I've tasted butter in over 2 yrs. We just use Clover light and I actually love the taste of it , especially on a warm black olive loaf straight from the bakery. Damn it I'm gonna have to eat now

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

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Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 21:25

I agree that butter is by far better. If you leave margarine with the lid off for two weeks or two months nothing will happen to it, ie no mould will grow on it, no insects or flies will eat it. It does you no good whatsoever, I converted a couple of years ago and have butter all the time, it's all about flavour as well.

Only my opinion.. Cheers, Chris/Woody

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Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 21:53

Although, I now drink soya milk which i have come to prefer to cow's milk, I have stuck with butter. Younger members may not be aware but with rationing in WW2 it was not unusual to have beef dripping on bread or toast, the last part of the Sunday lunch not wasted, sometimes with a little marmite added for extra flavour (or perhaps to disguise the flavour of the fat!). In hindsight I can't believe this was healthy but was a case of 'needs must'.

Chris, my understanding is that it is not good to eat anything that is burnt even toast, though burnt meat is probably worse, so we have our toast very lightly done.

Barry

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Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 22:33

Without a doubt Real Butter , Chris yes slightly burnt or very well done cold toast with a thick spread of butter I am with you all the way we would make great breakfast buddies.

I can remember back in the day. Having weetabix with a good spread of butter and then dipped in sugar ( Wow) fantastic that was the equivalent of our 5 a day with the odd Apple thrown in.

My mum used to leave her teeth impression in her toast and butter.

BFN

Julie X

NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON

User

Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 22:43

Interesting about burnt toast - when I was a member of a local running club we had a pharmacist who ran with us - he recommended burnt toast as a cure for diarrhoea!

Arthur

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Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 23:35

Black olive bread - bleurgh

Toast, lightly done, with real butter. Nothing else needed !

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User

Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 23:43

Margarine every time.

IF, you want to die an early death from a product that's been banned in many countries to fatten up turkeys,m burt was found to be bad for them"?

Butter - if you wish to die eventually.

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)

User

Posted 03 Feb 2016 at 23:50

Butter, butter and more butter especially on toast

anyway Margarining up to someone sounds naff compared to buttering them up.

User

Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 07:21

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member

Black olive bread - bleurgh

Lyn , you disappoint me !! You either just hate olives ? Or you've never tried it

Off to Julie's with toast I made yesterday and Prèsident unsalted butter. I seem to remember that as a favourite

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

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Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 09:10

Any fancy lightly salted butter on freshly made sourdough bread. As much as you want. Enjoy it while you can. In the grand scheme of things, all it can do to us lot is put weight on. It will not influence your disease outcome one iota.

User

Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 10:16

I have organic butter on toasted granary with organic honey. To start homemade muesli with many nuts and I add kiwi, and banana washed down with coconut milk. Very yummy.

Then I spoil it all with a bacon and tomato butty at least once a week.

Paul

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Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 11:54

One day the 'experts' will finally make up their minds about what is supposed to be good or bad for you..... until then I shall eat whatever I fancy.

I used to enjoy Lurpak butter on my toast........but for reasons best known to my OH she has 'changed me over' to Benecol.

It says on the pack that it's proven to lower cholesterol........ My cholesterol was within the normal range at my last check so not sure what all that's about! http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-smile.gif

Luther

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Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 12:36

hey up luther
its just your lass doing what she thinks best arnt they just great our OH's dealing with all this, tell my OH each day that I love her, makes her smile every time

regards
nidge

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User

Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 21:17

Butter and lots of

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Posted 04 Feb 2016 at 22:01

Apart from" margerining people up" it would be weird watching a chrysalis becoming a margarine fly and walking through a meadow of margarine cups...

Still think that butter on crumpets ooooozing through the little holes with a sprinkle of sugar on is just heaven!!

Regards, Chris/Woody

Life seems different upside down, take another viewpoint

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Posted 05 Feb 2016 at 09:00

When John's dad died of a heart attack about 26 years ago I didn't exactly go into panic mode but smashing man as his dad was he did love the fat on the ham and chops and so did John, although I had been weaning him off them

Anyway, I got one of those Boots cholesterol test kits that had come out and insisted that we tried them. I was fine but John's came up borderline so I telephoned the Boots helpline and explained about his dad and how worried I was and how John liked his butter (I had already removed all fats from hams and meats but he was clinging to the butter) and I asked for advice as I wanted to put him on a low margarine spread.

Very nice lady - she ummed and ahhed for a while because although she was a nurse she wasn't a dietician.
Eventually she said "Put it this way, butter is a natural product, margarine is a hydrogenated product from petro-chemicals and I know what I would rather eat"

So, no contest. We have butter in moderation and for years now I have also baked with it.

Toast? We've just had some made with my home made bread but we don't have butter at all, just my home made jam.

Barry I well remember beef dripping on bread with lots of salt. Stale loaf from the bakers at the end of the day, my mum used to put it in the oven and crisp it up we thought we were in heaven.

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails

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Posted 05 Feb 2016 at 10:32

When we go to the various dances, there are often stalls selling bread & dripping. I would be putting my life on the line if I tried to stop J having any - he loves it.

Chris J - I think olives of any colour are the food of the devil.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

User

Posted 05 Feb 2016 at 11:31

"Pure Soya Spread" for me and has been for the last 8 years. OK at £1.50 a tub not cheap but we usually wait until it is on special at £1 and then buy several tubs and stick them in the freezer.

My wife also uses it for baking and the results have been consistently good and I would say better than when she used butter.

Roger

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