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Husband's long wait for op, worried about spread

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Posted 28 Oct 2015 at 12:54
Hi Chris

This is a question I will ask at next meeting.

Although the consultant stated that surgery was not an option once HT had started he did say that salvage RT would still be available in future if cancer came back.

I think that brachytherapy could be an option.

Cheers

Sandy

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Posted 16 Nov 2015 at 12:11

Thanks to everyone for replying, sorry for late response. We live in the Black Country, so husband was automatically referred to Wolverhampton from the local hospital where he first attended. There have been no second opinions.

Anyway, pleased to say that his op date is set for the first week in December, so fingers crossed it goes ahead then.

I am a bit perturbed to hear about hormone treatment beforehand potentially affecting the removal of the prostate, and the Gleason score afterwards, but we can't do anything about that now, except hope that it goes well for him.

Thanks again.

User
Posted 16 Nov 2015 at 12:28

Wishing you both all the very best for the operation with a full and fast recovery!

User
Posted 16 Nov 2015 at 12:45

Good luck to your husband for his op in December.

I hope it all goes well for him and doesn't put a damper on your Christmas.

He'll need to put his feet up and relax.

Best wishes

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
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Posted 16 Nov 2015 at 13:55
Hi nellydean

Good luck to your husband on his surgery.

I too now have a date in first week of December, but unfortunately da vinca is no good to me, needs to be open surgery.

Anyway best wishes and hope all goes well for you and your husband.

Sandy

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Posted 16 Nov 2015 at 15:18
Hi William

I spoke to a surgeon at Ross Hall at the start of November and he informed me that these machines were ready to get installed at those locations by December.

But unfortunately due to my PCA having left the capsule this is not an option for me. Open surgery needs to be done so that they can get as much of the PCa as possible as the da vinca would not guarantee that.

Sandy

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Posted 16 Nov 2015 at 17:21
Hi nelly

Glad to see you have a date arranged for op, hope all goes well for you.

Lesley

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 00:56

Hi, here is an update for all those kind enough to respond to my original post.

My husband attended his 7-week post-op (da Vinci robotic) appointment with the consultant today, and was given the great news that the op had been very successful, cancer was still contained within prostate (which was a worry after such a long time from diagnosis to surgery), lymph nodes clear and vesicles clear, Gleason had been downgraded slightly to 7-7.5 from 8 and he doesn't need any radiotherapy treatment and can stop the hormone tablets. A bonus is that he saved one set of nerves completely and partially the other side. I guessed when he opened the conversation about erections and how he could come back from a demo about a vacuum pump that the news might be good (although you don't dare presume until it's actually said)!

He just has to return in four months for another PSA, and then every four months thereafter. He said he would only start him on RT if it reached 1 (which is apparently lower than the usual 2), but he calculated the odds of him needing to start RT within the next few years were quite low (rising to 30% over ten years).

I know there is no guarantee this will not come back but, after almost a year of worry, this news was a great relief to us both, and my husband near bounced out of the hospital with joy. The change in him is amazing - he feels he has his life back. 

I had read beforehand that people with a Gleason 8 aren't usually offered surgery, but the consultant said my husband was a perfect example of it being the correct course of action, given that he is relatively young (62) fit and otherwise healthy man. He has also not had much problem with incontinence or anything else so, after a series of disappointments, when everything was always a bit worse than expected, it was lovely to have better news than expected for once - in fact, the best. We can't thank his surgeon enough. He did a terrific job, by all accounts.

I hope this gives confidence to other men facing similar treatment, and I wish you all well, and thanks for listening again.

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 05:30

Excellent news for you both.  

Now, have you got the medication and equipment that you may need to facilitate rehabilitation of the penis to try to maximise the chances of EF returning?  Is he exercising the area to promote blood circulation?

The subsequent PSA tests and the wait for results is usually the next cause of anxiety.  We have all been in that situation.  At some point that anxiety becomes easier to deal with, to manage, by accepting the fact that there's nothing that you can do about the result, so there's no point worrying about it.  I call this a state of acceptance, took me a while to reach it, but my life is happier and my anxiety level more constant now that I am there.  Hope you can get there as well.  

Atb

dave  

Edited by member 21 Jan 2016 at 06:26  | Reason: Not specified

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 07:43

Congratulations to you both. Seems like a fantastic result all round so far. Good news is greatly welcomed on here
Chris

If life gives you lemons , then make lemonade

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 09:20

Fantastic news Nelly, and very much welcomed by all.

As you say, it might help somebody else in the same or a similar situation.

Well done that surgeon !!

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 09:22

Nellydean, did they tell you his first post-op PSA reading?

And could you have misheard the bit about starting RT at 1 rather than 2? Usually, RT or other salvage treatment would be started at 0.2 although some will do so when the PSA rises above 0.1 if there have been three successive rises.

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 09:58
Brilliant news.

Let's hear more good news stories.

Sandy

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 10:03
A great encouragement to others

Arthur

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 10:50

Excellent news
Hope you had a little celebration ☺

Garry

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 11:04

Excellent news for you both!

I remember how elated I was when I heard and read my histology report from the surgeon. ( I still read it on occasions to remind myself how lucky I was ) 

I was fully expecting to be having adjunctive RT after my op...... to be told I didn't need any further treatment at present really gave me a boost.

Best wishes
Luther

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 11:25

Great News!  Enjoy.

Best Wishes,

Steve

User
Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 12:22

Top news and best wishes to you both!

User
Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 15:22

No, he hasn't even given that aspect much thought yet tbh, Countryboy9, think it will take him a few days to really accept he's been given good news, despite his initial jubilation,  as he was prepared to have to undergo RT sessions - he lost his rag with the dog today on a walk, when she played up, and I told him it was probably pent-up stress coming out. 

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Posted 21 Jan 2016 at 15:30

His PSA was 0.008, which the consultant said was excellent.

Tumour measured 20mm on the left side, mostly pattern 4, some pattern 3 and a few little bits of pattern 5, so a fairly aggressive cancer, but one he felt they had dealt with. Think consultant and his colleagues were highly delighted themselves as, pre-op, they felt he would probably need some RT.

He might have said .1 as the marker for starting treatment but, anyhow, he was pretty confident in the prognosis, and said even if he did ever need RT, it would be deemed as curative, so that was encouraging to hear as well.

They took out 15 lymph nodes and they were all clear.

Thanks for your good wishes, and my best to you all too.

 
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