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Incontinence? Goodbye to the kids' inheritances.

User
Posted 12 May 2015 at 10:51
Nigh on two years ago, I was referred to the local (NHS) urology department for consideration for an artificial sphincter to compensate for the declining effectiveness of my bulbar sling. Since then , there has been a stream of inefficiency and conflicting advice, culminating in a TWELVE month waiting list to see the consultant who does the AUS operations, and that is just a consultation, not the operation.

I'm afraid the camel's back has been broken by the last straw, and I am going to spend the kids' inheritances by going back (privately) to see the consultant who did my original LRP and sling implant. At least he is somebody I feel I can trust.

When we go through the hustings for the Welsh Assembly elections next year, any Labour candidates who think they have handled the Welsh NHS well had better keep clear of me.

More information on the AUS to follow with a bit of luck.

Edited by member 17 May 2015 at 12:44  | Reason: Not specified

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.

User
Posted 17 May 2015 at 12:50
Tony and Barry too

it seems all so unjust, I genuinely feel for all men who suffer from this horrid disease. The physical and mental anguish it causes just does not seem to be fully understood. I am sure if it were more help would be readily available through the NHS.

I am posting to let you know that whilst I can never truly understand I do at least try and I genuinely care.

Best wishes

xx

Mo

Edited by member 17 May 2015 at 20:10  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 18 May 2015 at 11:07

Thanks all. I'm off to Birmingham tomorrow afternoon to see the AUS specialist. I'll let you know how I get on. I'm also taking the opportunity to try to sort out the conflicting advice over Testosterone Replacement Therapy.

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.

User
Posted 19 May 2015 at 21:04

Back from the consultant in Birmingham. The show is on the road! An AUS is entirely feasible, I just have to have another set of urodynamic tests and an internal examination to check that there is nothing else that needs attention first. I'm waiting with slight trepidation for an estimate of the cost. Apparently the AUS itself will cost around £5,000 before consultant's fees, hospital charges etc. The AUS placement is a two-day job, relatively small operation on day 1, then catheter out and check flow on day 2. The AUS will be activated about eight weeks later when I am fully healed.

Also the consultant will be writing to my GP to say that, in view of my five years of unmeasurable PSA, he can see no reason to deny testosterone replacement therapy.

Suddenly the long dark tunnel looks a bit brighter.

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.

User
Posted 28 Jul 2015 at 22:44

Ouch indeed.

AUS in October then?

Hope it goes well.

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 29 Jul 2015 at 10:39

Good luck Tony!

Hope all goes well

Luther

User
Posted 01 Aug 2015 at 19:10

Hi Tony

All sounds good to gohttp://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-cool.gif

 

Barry

User
Posted 13 Sep 2015 at 16:12

Self catheterisation seems to have been successful as the stricture has not returned. Go / No Go for the AUS meeting with the consultant a week on Wednesday......

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.

User
Posted 14 Sep 2015 at 02:08
Good news Tony

We need some of that

All the best for next week.

Xx

Mo

User
Posted 03 Oct 2015 at 13:49
Tony

Brilliant news I really hope you get your date soon xx

All the very best

Mo

User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 13:53

Hi Tony 

Sounds like good news for you, 

Hope all goes well

I have not heard a word, and I am not too bothered I think I will put up with a drippy willy and pads ,

What worried me was the fact that if I was to go into retention or the stricture returned I could not self catheter without the AUS being deactivated 

User
Posted 04 Oct 2015 at 18:49

Excellent news Tony, fingers crossed it all goes well.

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
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User
Posted 17 May 2015 at 07:16
Hi Tony,

I can fully understand where you are coming from on this matter, I had someone the other day say to me Oh prostate cancer that's not too bad, I just smiled they have no idea what the side effects are or how it effects us mentally,

I am going to let the my kids keep my money, I am so fed up with being poked about I have now decided just to go with the flow ,

my status at the moment totally incontinent it's either a conveen or a pad, sex what's that,

User
Posted 17 May 2015 at 12:16

Hopefully, if you see a consultant privately he may be able to refer you back through the NHS. I hope so anyway.

Good luck with it Tony.

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 17 May 2015 at 12:50
Tony and Barry too

it seems all so unjust, I genuinely feel for all men who suffer from this horrid disease. The physical and mental anguish it causes just does not seem to be fully understood. I am sure if it were more help would be readily available through the NHS.

I am posting to let you know that whilst I can never truly understand I do at least try and I genuinely care.

Best wishes

xx

Mo

Edited by member 17 May 2015 at 20:10  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 17 May 2015 at 20:04

Tony, Barry,

What can anyone say to make things better? Diddley.

It is so bad and unfortunate, and I am so sorry that you both have to resort to the solutions that you have chosen. Life is unfair. It still puzzles and confuses me that with the same basic bits, interfered with generally in the same way, there are so many different outcomes for men with PCa.

This weekend I met a fellow who had had a DaVinci and is incontinent, several pads a day. He is apparently the 1 in the 100 that bucks his surgeons trend of success of 100% success. The surgeon is currently 99% successful at UC and EF. But what id you are that 1%? What can I say having regained urinary control, albeit much later than many, but before or earlier than so many also.

The issue of funding is random and unfair. FWIW I have a load of pads spare, if of any use to anyone?

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 18 May 2015 at 11:07

Thanks all. I'm off to Birmingham tomorrow afternoon to see the AUS specialist. I'll let you know how I get on. I'm also taking the opportunity to try to sort out the conflicting advice over Testosterone Replacement Therapy.

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.

User
Posted 18 May 2015 at 19:44
Good luck Tony

xx

Mo

User
Posted 18 May 2015 at 21:30

Tony

Hope you hear what you wish from your specialist and you get all the solutions you need without too much SKIing.

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 19 May 2015 at 04:48

God luck later today Tony.

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 19 May 2015 at 06:30

Good luck Tony.

Hope it goes well for you.

Best Wishes
Sandra

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 19 May 2015 at 11:13

Hi tony I will be interested in how you get on with the private consultant re AUS. My husband went through all the waiting for apts etc got

to theatre only to be told when he came round that they were unable to carry out the procedure due to all the scar tissue present because

of ? surgery and radiotherapy treatment.

I never thought of seeking another opinion on this, it happened a few years ago. He now manages things with an external continence

device which is much preferable to using pads for those who are struggling with these.

very best wishes

Eileen

User
Posted 19 May 2015 at 21:04

Back from the consultant in Birmingham. The show is on the road! An AUS is entirely feasible, I just have to have another set of urodynamic tests and an internal examination to check that there is nothing else that needs attention first. I'm waiting with slight trepidation for an estimate of the cost. Apparently the AUS itself will cost around £5,000 before consultant's fees, hospital charges etc. The AUS placement is a two-day job, relatively small operation on day 1, then catheter out and check flow on day 2. The AUS will be activated about eight weeks later when I am fully healed.

Also the consultant will be writing to my GP to say that, in view of my five years of unmeasurable PSA, he can see no reason to deny testosterone replacement therapy.

Suddenly the long dark tunnel looks a bit brighter.

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.

User
Posted 19 May 2015 at 21:26

Excellent news for you Tony.

atb

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 19 May 2015 at 23:19

Tony

Glad you've heard some good news. Hope it all works out for you.

Paul

Stay Calm And Carry On.
User
Posted 20 May 2015 at 08:34

Yay, Tony so pleased for you.

Yes,it's going to cost and that is so bloody unfair BUT you get your life back.

I bet your kids would say/have said "Go for it dad" !! I'm sure they would rather have a dad who isn't inconvenienced like you have been to a dad who leaves them a legacy that could have made him pretty much whole again had he used it.

Good luck.

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 20 May 2015 at 13:01
Tony

That is such good news, I am sure you were just joking a little about SKI -ing you go and spend whatever you need to make you feel better about living, I am certain your kids would agree.

I am looking forward to you posting after the procedure and telling us how much better things are then I will smile a nice big cheese happy smile for you.

Best wishes

Xx

Mo

User
Posted 20 May 2015 at 20:05
Oh wow, I'm delighted to read this Tony. I know it costs but it's worth it to get some decent quality of life back.

Cheer

Allison

User
Posted 20 May 2015 at 22:21

Tony,

would cable ties have worked? Did for me!

wishing you well. ;-)

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 21 May 2015 at 20:03
Hi Tony,

Really glad to hear the good news,just sorry that you are having to pay for it,

I have got future appointments regarding AUS I will stay in touch

Barry

User
Posted 21 May 2015 at 20:24

I was joking a bit about the kids' inheritances. The truth is even worse. The money will come out of the MGA purchase and restoration fund. *sigh* Actually, having looked at the price of candidate MGAs, I think the AUS might be a better investment.

Re: cable ties, good grief. Brought tears to my eyes.....

Tony

TURP then LRP in 2009/2010. Lots of leakage but PSA < 0.1 AMS-800 Artificial Sphincter activated 2015.

 
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