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Starting radiotherapy

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Posted 13 May 2018 at 11:00

The injection into the muscle is really no trouble to me at all - especially in the shoulder. I am not aware of any detrimental effect by having the injection into muscle as opposed to the sub-cutaneous pellet but more informed people may know better? I was speaking to a couple whilst waiting for my RT on Thursday and he showed me a 4 square inch bruise adjacent to the pellet injection site on his stomach. He said the first injection had him in tears. There are of course so many more stories about this method not being any issue whatsoever. I have absolutely no issues with needles so I wouldn't mind but I wasn't offered a choice.
Richard

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Posted 25 May 2018 at 14:56

I had a good chat with my assigned cancer care nurse in my local NHS hospital today.


I am Gleason 4:5 T2c


i started Triptorelin on 23rd April and I have a review on 21st June to check how well the hormone treatment is shrinking my PCa


At this review my oncologist will look at the week befores blood test results for PSA and Testosterone


If she thinks my hormone treatment has had the desired effect I will be given a start date for my Radiotherapy


This will start approx at the 3 month point from my first hormone injection 


so I have my fingers crossed, as I wanted to do the awful 7 weeks Monday to Friday RT during the summer months


In my area NHS Trust, RT is normally given at 3 month point if your PCa is responding to hormone therapy 


Other areas may have different standards, I post this just for information 


 

User
Posted 25 May 2018 at 16:28
I wish you every success with your RT, Alan. God knows I'm only too aware of how stressful this rollercoaster of dealing with cancer can be! Hope the outcome for you is positive.

Chris
User
Posted 28 Jul 2018 at 21:03

This sort of an update


Ive had my 2nd Decapeptyl IM injection on 23rd July and next day my “list” arrived from the hospital. 20 fractions starting 7th August.


i have had my planning CT scan supported with ultrasound probe and finished up getting my three “freckles” tattooed 

Edited by member 28 Jul 2018 at 21:04  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 28 Jul 2018 at 21:35

Good luck with the RT Pallance.


 

Ido4

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Posted 29 Jul 2018 at 08:42

Yes, good luck.


I'm sure you will be back soon telling us all your concerns were unfounded. There will be sessions which don't go absolutely smoothly when you might get the yellow card and sent out for 10 minutes while you drink a bit more (often to a lot of leg pulling by your fellow patients๐Ÿ˜).


On one occasion I was given the card and told to do some strange exercises to get rid of some gas. It's the first time a lady has ever asked me to do that!!๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ


We look forward to seeing a picture of you ringing the bell!

User
Posted 29 Jul 2018 at 09:04

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Yes, good luck.


I'm sure you will be back soon telling us all your concerns were unfounded. There will be sessions which don't go absolutely smoothly when you might get the yellow card and sent out for 10 minutes while you drink a bit more (often to a lot of leg pulling by your fellow patients๐Ÿ˜).


On one occasion I was given the card and told to do some strange exercises to get rid of some gas. It's the first time a lady has ever asked me to do that!!๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ๐Ÿ˜ƒ


We look forward to seeing a picture of you ringing the bell!



thanks for taking the time to give me encouragement, it’s just what I need.


as I left hospital after my setup session there was a guy ringing the bell surrounded by his wife and 2 children. He had cannula in his hand and drips hanging from a mobile stand he was shiny bald, so probably on chemo as well.


certainly put my T2c into,perspective 


thanks again Tykey 

User
Posted 15 Aug 2018 at 20:02

Well, I had fraction number 7 of 20 today. A third of the way through. It’s not been so bad as I thought so far. I have no urinary issues and no bowel Problems yet, but I suppose I am still in early stage? I define feel a lot more tired, but I’m not sure at all if this is due to the 5 hours on the go from door to door every day. I have followed advice, I shower twice a day, using Dove soap and shower cream, I have some 98% Aloe Vera gel that I apply liberally over the treated areas. My treatment so Fay is IMRT supported by Ultrasound. I get zapped from 6 o’clock under the bed, then 9 o’clock, 11 o’clock, 1 o’clock and finally 3 o’clock, so five in all. This is the same every day. I am now firmly in the routine. I have been able to cycle every day, about an hour and a half, after I get home, which I find therapeutic. The fitness has most definitely had a big impact on my treatment ever since I started on hormone therapy up till now.

User
Posted 16 Aug 2018 at 08:08
reassuring post - thank you and fingers crossed it sorts it out for you..
User
Posted 16 Aug 2018 at 10:41

Hope the remaining fractions go well. You’re well on the way through the 20 so here’s wishing for the side effects to remain low to non existent.


Interesting that you said the IMRT is supported by ultrasound. Is that to check your bladder is filled to the correct level? 


I was scanned by the machine using X-rays each day to check position and bladder filling.


All the best,


Ian

Ido4

User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 15:42

Fraction 14 of 20 Friday 24th August. Main problem for me is the constant diarrhoea. I’m using melt on the tongue Imodium, it helps a bit.


Tiredness comes and goes, but I still find the daily cycling helps no end, not too long as I need to be fairly close to a loo 


When I had mynplanning CT Scan a foot mould was taken and all my other settings.


Daily routine is 60 minutes before my fraction, mini enema, 30 minutes later empty bowel and drink three cups of water in quick succession, tell the receptionist I’ve completed my “prep” and hope my RT machine is on time!


After 14 fractions I have no discernible skin discolouring or other skin issues


Once in i “mount” the table. Feet into my mould, support triangles push my knees out, then the staff place the ultrasound support probe firmly against my perenium. They view the image to check if the water has lifted my bladder away from my prostate and the enema has emptied my bowel enough to move it out the way of the treatment area enough. All this must be right before they start my fraction.


The machine treats me from 6 o’clock 9 o’clock 11 o’clock 1 o’clock and 3 o’clock positions. Then it’s dismount, wipe all the conducting jelly off and quickly visit the loo.


I hope this info helps to prepare people unsure of what to expect.


I attended a pre treatment Open Evening at my centre, this was invaluable 


Alan

User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 16:06
I'm finding your reports really helpful in knowing what to expect when I have my RT. Thanks for posting them, and I hope things stay relatively bearable. At least you're on the "home straight" now!

Chris
User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 19:41

Thank you Alan very helpful

User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 19:47

My RT was pretty similar, except that as soon as I developed loose bowels (about halfway through the 20 sessions,) I was told to stop using the mini enemas. Also, no ultrasonic probe was used, the RT machine also did a preliminary X ray.

User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 20:26

My best advice is be careful not to drink too early as I saw several instances where men had to abort the therapy and run for a wee! I would get there around 35 minutes early and grab a radiographer and ask if I should start drinking. This was good as several times they said please wait 10, 15, 30 45 minutes! The poor chaps who turned up having had their water would often need to start again. There were people I befriended who sometimes had 3 aborted sessions due to need to pee and were there for 4 hours!


Low fibre diet was advised to aim to reduce bowel issues!
Loose bowels a large problem! Fybogel first try was no good but now I have it every day 10 weeks after treatment.

Edited by member 25 Aug 2018 at 20:28  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 20:31
Are you still experiencing bowel problems ten weeks after you finished RT, Rich?

Chris
User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 21:20
Since I went back on Fibogel 9th August I've been much better. I have never had a catastrophic "hull breach" but close ones! I worked throughout the treatment and I'm normally desk based but I've had to walk round a car production line. I had a few close calls but mostly I had good access to toilets which I absolutely needed!!! I often had 4-8 "visits" a day. Onco said it must be constipation not loose bowels and that seems to have proven true.

Honestly Chris, it doesn't really affect me anymore but I know I need to "be carefull!!!". The radiotherapy staff gave me Loperamide which only seemed to give me stomach pain.
User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 21:23
What type of treatment are you having? Have you had your radiotherapy planning session? This is a good time to go through all of this.
User
Posted 25 Aug 2018 at 21:50

I started on 150mg daily bicalutamide a little over a week ago, Rich, with my oncologist saying that the plan is I'll be on it for two years. Plan is to have RT after six months - ie around next Feb/March time. So no RT planning for a while yet, but I'd like to know as much as I can in advance about what to expect, which is why Alan's posts here have been so helpful to me.


Chris

Edited by member 25 Aug 2018 at 21:53  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 03 Sep 2018 at 21:59

Well, I get to ring the bell at my Oncology hospital tomorrow!


 At the beginning seemed like it was going to take an eternity,  but here I am getting fraction 20 tomorrow.


 Reference the comments about not getting an ultrasound probe, I asked about this and it was explained about overlaying the ultrasound image over my planning CT scan to ensure my enema and drinking routine moved my rectum and bladder outside of the treatment beam as much as possible. Also IMRT with Ultrasound support and my tattoo alignment is accurate to less than 3mm I was informed. That sounds good enough to me.


The Bristol Haematology and Oncology hospital I get treated at is a Universty teaching hospital and reports put it on a par with The Royal Marsden and that was the worlds first hospital dedicated to cancer diagnosis and treatments and has an enviable reputation, so I’m very happy.


I won’t have much to report from now on, but I have been advised my side effects will continue to possibly get worse for two weeks after treatment completion and then subside slowly


once I am in remission I will be staying put here to help and advise those just starting their journey

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