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Plan B. radium plus dexamethasone

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Posted 08 Feb 2017 at 08:48

Great news that your OH is improving Eleanor - long may it continue.

Regarding the nostril hair, as far as David is concerned, pre-chemo my main area of concentration was the eyebrows - some of the offending hairs were of a size and direction of growth as to offer a comfortable perch for a medium-sized robin. Not a good look! Unfortunately these also had the biggest roots and thus caused the loudest yelps on removal. 'Man up' I said - 'women do this all the time without all this fuss and you look 10 years younger.' (Slight exaggeration but anything for a quiet life.) Anyway, he's always happy with the results as he preens if the mirror - and the robins have nowhere to land.

My ministrations are not needed at the moment but I won't be at all unhappy if, post chemo, they become necessary again.

Linda

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Posted 08 Feb 2017 at 09:44

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Already broken and drunken! Will do it again tomorrow in a toast to all of us.



I realise that this sounds like it's me and him 'broken and drunken' and in fact we were well and just a bit squiffy - a reply to Julie's suggestion that we 'break out the gin'!


Maybe I need to add more tonic.


E

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Posted 08 Feb 2017 at 09:51

Originally Posted by: Online Community Member


Great news that your OH is improving Eleanor - long may it continue.


Regarding the nostril hair, as far as David is concerned, pre-chemo my main area of concentration was the eyebrows - some of the offending hairs were of a size and direction of growth as to offer a comfortable perch for a medium-sized robin. Not a good look! Unfortunately these also had the biggest roots and thus caused the loudest yelps on removal. 'Man up' I said - 'women do this all the time without all this fuss and you look 10 years younger.' (Slight exaggeration but anything for a quiet life.) Anyway, he's always happy with the results as he preens if the mirror - and the robins have nowhere to land.


My ministrations are not needed at the moment but I won't be at all unhappy if, post chemo, they become necessary again.


Linda



I do know what you mean. I don't pluck though.  As I said previously, Cutting them off is my reward for cutting his hair but it definitely makes a difference to the look.  


 


John's added hairs though are the result of age I would think. Certainly not treatment

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
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Posted 09 Feb 2017 at 16:31

Hi Eleanor


I've finally been able to get back on to the website properly.  For some reason it just wouldn't accept my password.  Anyway - Ive caught up properly now on your horrible roller coaster from the last couple of weeks. I'm so glad things have calmed down a bit now - you have both really been through the mill. Hope the gin is taking the edge off ! x

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Posted 19 Feb 2017 at 01:12

Well we're on to Plan D subset 53j now it appears. Might have changed again on Monday of course. Certainly no possibility of boredom in this household and my OH's nostril hairs are now long enough to plait. Lord knows when we'll get back to his grooming routine...


After the heady jollifications of my last post things started to go downhill again.


When the MRI showed that he didn't have SCC, everyone breathed such a sigh of relief that no-one thought to do anything about the inflammation so that continued to get worse. Ditto the bone pain and weakness which spread from the back across the whole pelvis and groin. That led to various out-of-hours panic calls last weekend and then another call to the Oncologist to ask what the hell was going on / not going on. And that led to us going in for a lumbar scan and that led to a radiotherapy appointment to try to deal with the misaligned vertebrae since the bones are too fragile to operate on.




That night he was doubled up in agony...we poured tons of morphine down him to no avail so phoned O-O-H for advice. They wanted us to go to A&E. Needless to say he didn't want to! Tried to sleep (fat chance) and phoned O-O-H at 3.00 and eventually the doctor came out at 5.30 and gave him an injection of slow-release pain killer which thankfully allowed him to get to sleep.



 

Had the RT the next afternoon but they forgot to give him a pre-dose of anti-sickness so he started retching up immediately after. By the time we got a prescription from the nurse the hospital pharmacy was shut and we couldn't find a pharmacy anywhere that had the anti-sickness drug she had prescribed. So we were tearing round in the rush-hour with him being thoroughly sick in to one of those grey cardboard sick-bowls and me cutting people up and switching lanes and getting pinker and crosser - a female Jeremy Clarkson. In the end we phoned the hospital and they brought the pharmacist back in from home and we drove back to get the b****y tablets. There must be an easier way.

 

Since then he's felt rubbish. Bone pain is ok but the morphine and steroids are making him confused and low and tired and he still feels sick. Basically he's been feeling rubbish in one way or another for 15 months, with very little let-up. Throughout it all he's continuing to be so courageous but right now it feels like he's running out of hope.

 

And the Radium treatment is off the cards for the moment - I think they are going to try the Abi/Enzo hormone route to try to strengthen the bones. But still no progress on dealing with the sickness which is a constant companion.

 

As Julie put it - this disease is a head clucker.

 

E

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Posted 19 Feb 2017 at 02:11

El, where is your hospice nurse in all this? They are usually the best at getting all the pain meds balanced correctly :-(

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards." Soren Kierkegaard
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Posted 19 Feb 2017 at 09:13

Hi Lyn


Think things keep changing so rapidly that no-one is quite keeping up. She does phone us regularly but if my OH answers he always says everything is fine (argg!). The hospital have now given him slow-release morphine which seems to be keeping the pain under control right now.


The more constant problem is the feeling of sickness that nothing has ever shifted. Plus the constipation and confusion and weak legs and all the other delights that go with PCa/PCa treatment. We see the onco on Thursday but I don't think either of us are particularly hopeful.


Probably need a good dose of the grandchildren - or the gin.


E


x

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Posted 19 Feb 2017 at 11:47

Eleanor,


I'm so sorry to hear of hubby's continuing troubles. Re the sickness, I doubt there is anything I'm going to say that won't already have been tried, but, just in case:


1. I take Ondansetron for three days per 21 day chemo cycle. I've never felt sick. It's a bar steward at binding you up but a combination of Laxido and Dulcolax has sorted out that problem.


2. I was given Metoclopramide to take as a backup anti sickness if needed. I've never had to take one so I've no idea how good they are or aren't.


I really hope the medics manage to sort this for hubby, he deserves to have some good days to counter balance the crap ones.


David

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Posted 19 Feb 2017 at 19:37

Thanks David - for the good wishes and the suggestion of Dulcolax which is the one thing he hasn't tried yet. A sorted out bum would definitely be a step in the right direction!


 

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Posted 19 Feb 2017 at 20:50

Oh Eleanor this all sounds horribly familiar! Have you tried phoning the hospice nurse yourself? I was driven to do this while David was at the hospital having his blood and the nurse arranged to come and visit. He (the nurse) looked at the whole situation and did a major rejig of the medication. A regular double dose of metaclopramide and normacol sorted the constipation, nausea and lack of appetite. Along with an increased dose of MST David was a different person within a couple of days.


Once you've got him sorted you could take up knitting the long hairs up into a handy blanket?


Take care and big hugs


Rosy xx 

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Posted 20 Feb 2017 at 00:11

This is really helpful Rosy - thank you so very much for your kindness (and for making me laugh - definitely the best medicine). I'll speak to the hospice nurse tomorrow and pass on your suggestion.


Meanwhile I'll buy the knitting needles...maybe create a nice set of antimacassars after I've finished the blanket. Will need contributions from Mrs C and Julie though, otherwise the height of my ambition will be a very small hamster blanket. And that would mean I had to buy a very small hamster to go with it. Could start to get a bit complicated...


Hugs to you too


Eleanor


x

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Posted 20 Feb 2017 at 21:20
Pets at Home do a good line in hamsters Eleanor but to be honest I think it would probably chew the blanket. I only know about the Hamsters because of Rita she is our Jack Russel , long story short we had a rat that was getting into our kitchen and despite my horror and our best efforts to catch it , it was a pretty canny rat and managed to out wit my best efforts at trapping it.. I couldn't bare the thought of it so and having to deal with a rat and cancer just pushed me over the edge. So in a mad panic moment I thought I know a Jack Russel ( they kill rats don't they ) . Well it turns out No they don't apparently you have to train them so after a lot of googling you put a rat in a dustbin and then add a Jack Russel 😱. So Trevor went to pets at home to purchase a rat but and there is always a but he came back and said " I couldn't do it they have all got names Julie " so hence I have got a useless Jack Russel and they only thing she has managed to kill is the remote control and that's how he knows they have Hamsters in Pets at Home.😜
Just in case you wondered we managed to catch the rat in a trap with a piece of jerk chicken ( it was obviously Jamaican) and then drowned it ( ouch)
Sorry I have got nothing useful to add re the sickness only where to buy a good hamster. 🤓
Trevor is getting sickness most mornings he does take lanzaprasol which seems to settle his tummy he was only actually sick for the first few days on the Raduim and now it is just a queezy feeling .
So sorry to hear that things are tough again , I have said it before and will probably say it again " This Clucking Disease " is so hard at times. Keep your chin up.
BFN
Julie X
NEVER LAUGH AT A LIVE DRAGON
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Posted 20 Feb 2017 at 21:39

Julie you are abso-blooming-lutely wonderful!


If we could only bottle you and distribute you internationally the world would be a massively better place. Though the rats might not agree.


Love and hugs and appreciation


Eleanor


xxx

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Posted 20 Feb 2017 at 23:32
Oh Eleanor you've got so much to deal with at the moment. The sickness is just one thing too much on top of everything else for Tony. You are both being amazing. I can't believe they forgot to give the anti sickness drug !!! I know it's easy to make mistakes but that just is ridiculous when it's caused you so much extra hassle - I'm so annoyed on your behalf. I hope you are getting some rest x
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Posted 20 Feb 2017 at 23:38
Eleanor just to let you know that I just tried to send you a private message but your inbox is full x
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Posted 20 Feb 2017 at 23:55

Aw thanks Sally...he is coping with a helluva lot right now love his cotton socks and oversights like that are massively upsetting and unnecessary. But hope somehow springs eternal. We've got an appointment next week with the consultant at the hospice to take an holistic view of all the medications he's taking (and all the ruddy side effects) so maybe she can help. And Abi or Enzo on the way - has worked for lots of people on this site. The gin's finished but I have a cheeky little Malbec at my side and a bar of chocolate. So on we plod! Hope things are good with you?


E


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PS will empty my inbox right now!

 
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