Good morning Raiden and welcome.
I'm sorry to see you here at 43. You are young enough to be my son so I really feel for you. I do worry over him because of his father's cancer.
Guilty in a past life? Well, if we were to all look at some of the things that have happened to us in this one (my grandson, my daughter, my husband, my niece, my daughter in law) then we must have been a right rotten lot of people.
No good thinking of it like that though is there. It is what it is
What needs doing now is facing the future (your very long future - PC free)
Yes there are going to be humps and bumps along your road, but you will get there.
1) The Toolkit we all keep on about. Make sure you get it and as has been said, use it for the basis of your questions.
Take a notebook or record all meetings so you have something to refer back to. You will never remember it all at the time
Take somebody with you to the meetings. Two heads remember things better than one
2) Your sex life may be different, but not necessarily poorer than it is now. Dry orgasms? My husband had brachytherapy which he was eligible for because of his age (74) but there isn't a massive difference to before.
The suggestion of freezing sperm is an excellent one and at your age one you may think is a great idea.
3) From today (If you haven't already) then start doing your pelvic floor exercises. Whatever treatment path you take, the exercises will be invaluable for strengthening those muscles which help you regain urinary control.
4) Try not to worry too much. Easier said than done but any energy expended worrying over what you can't change is energy put to better use in dealing with prostate cancer.
5) We are a sort of online family and very supportive of each other. I guarantee that to some extent members have/are experiencing all the feelings and emotions that you currently have
We don't mind questions on any subject regarding PC. We just want to help in any way we can, even if it's only a shoulder to lean on.
6) Are you back under the national health or are you having treatment privately?
Anyway young man, I wish you all the best.
You've been down the cancer road already so know to some extent what you are capable of but you now have the benefit of us behind you too.
Best Wishes
Sandra
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Hi Raiden
The number of posts you have received hopefully shows you have no need to fight this alone.
As my profile shows I had RT and HT.However that was 10 years ago and procedures and attitudes have moved on. Which is why I suggest having those meets so you can choose knowing as much as you can about today's medic thoughts and improved treatments.
Ray
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Good morning Raiden
I am very sorry and sad that you find yourself here, as others have said it is not a choice thing. Neither is it a punishment if it were I think I probably would have lost the plot long ago.
As for Ladies posting, we are a bit like London buses none for a while and then 3 of us come along all at once! We are all extremely open minded and that is borne from dealing with this disease, after all 2 of the biggest and most common issues are incontinence and erectile dysfunction so we talk a lot about dealing with these. Nobody here is phased by discussing or sharing any aspect of dealing with PCa and how it affects our lives.
The pychological issues are numerous and you have alredy been through some of these once with HNL, the issues with PCa are also about how it affects you making some big decisions and how it might affect you as a Man and in your case a very young one.
Getting some of your sperm frozen is really a great idea, you may think you do not want children, you may think you might never meet the ideal partner to have children with but just having that option is precious.
If you want to read Dave CB99s thread it is a really good account of one person's journey through surgery and beyond, it is funny sometimes hilarious but it is also honest and factual. You can find it by doing the following:
1) select show search
2) Select find a conversation
3) enter countryboy99 into the posted by section
4) in the select from tab drop down past posts from the old forum to personal stories and select that
you should then get a link for Another Newbie Dan Dan slect that and read away if I was really clever i could paste a link for you but I am not sure I could do that?! There are several other threads and profiles with full accounts of people's experiences too.
Nuff from me there will be a lot of questions you want to ask in getting ready for your big consultation.
We are all here now and will be whenever you need anyone to chat with.
I just wanted to say Hi and welcome you as others have to this forum where we really do try to look out for each other in every way we can.
best wishes
xxx
Mo
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Hi Raidan,
I just want to say I am thinking of you and yes it is a huge shock especially being so young, have a look at my profile my Husband is 46 and will be having Da Vinci op on 9th July. Yes you will find there are lots of us ladies on here finding out everything we possibly can for our men, I think it's that some men just can't face being on the forum but I am hoping that my Husband joins after he has the op. At the moment he is feeling a bit down about it all and seems to feel more relaxed if I ask for info or read to him about what is going on with other people. You will find they are a fantastic bunch of people on here and a wealth of information.
Good luck un your journey and keep us posted.
Best Wishes,
Trish
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Thank you all so very for the posts. There is a lot of information you have all provided for me to think on, it means so much to now know I am not alone facing this and I really appreciate the time you have spent to message me and the length many of you have gone.
I have thought about freezing sperm but I already have a grown up son, so I am ok with not wanting any more.
Great idea about recording the meetings, that will save me having to write any answers down to the questions I want to ask to each consultant.
Although I ended up going private because I was not getting anywhere with the NHS GP, now that a diagnosis has been made the urologist recommended to go back with the NHS which is what I have done.
I did receive a toolkit folder when I was diagnosed which contained lots of leaflets and information I am guessing this is the same toolkit mentioned in the posts?
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The toolkit that is being referred to is the PC UK one, you can request online and they will send it in the post. Not sure if thats the one you have already? It's a black folder with loads if booklet inside.
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Hi Raiden,
So glad you have got lots of support which is how it always is here ! Just to add my best wishes and support to you !
Fiona.
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Raiden,
I was living in Mexico when I was diagnosed 6 years ago, and I elected for Da Vinci...I had absolutely no idea that this site existed until the night before surgery and I was lying in bed in hospital in Monterrey...I found it a great help to receive many words of comfort and advice from fellow sufferers. I felt completely alone and was terrified at the time. I have been clear ever since the surgery but have continued to have problems with erections. Sex with my wife has changed but not stopped, if this is the price I have had to pay then it is worth it. Good luck to you.
Gary
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Hi Raiden
my husband was diagnosed last November, almost the same figures as yours. Age 58
He had RRP on dec 1st last year.
Nerve sparing on one side
He has still got continence problems, and is on 2 pads a day. In the last two weeks, he has started to get semi erections, although it's a slow process.
But the cancer has gone. It was upgraded on pathological examination to Gleason 9, and the surgeon said it had reached the outside of the capsule but not the surgical margins.
As an aside, my husband asked the surgeon what he would do if he had my OHs figures. He said surgery every time, although that might be because he's a surgeon! My OH never considered anything other than surgery because he didn't feel he could live with it inside him
And the cancer has gone. He is alive to complain about the continence issues and the ED.
Good luck with your choice
Louise
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Hi Raiden,
I am just dropping in to say Hi and welcome, the others have given you some brilliant advice so far, one thing that I would like to add is about the freezing of your sperm as you say you already have a son so this isn't a top priority but looking to the future you may meet the love of your life and children maybe a priority for her , also you may decide that you would want to have more children with the right person. So just a thought none of us know what the future holds and even if you never used that sperm it would be there just in case. I have heard it is a fairly quick procedure and not at all painful http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif. You are still a young Guy with lots of life yet to live.
Keep us updated with your journey (we are all a bit nosey). If you click on peoples avatars then you can read our individual Bios , as CB says your prognosis looks very good (I know that sounds weird) but as you start to gain knowledge of this disease you will understand as for saying that you must be a bad person to have had the bad luck to have a second dance with the big C , well I simply can't believe any one with your smile could be a bad person. It is just sometimes the way the cookie crumbles. We are all here for you .
BFN
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Hi Raiden,
Sorry to see you here, especially as this is cancer number two for you. From your stats though it look like you've got a very good chance of many more years ahead of you, and as a fellow "doubler" and two years post Da Vinci, life's still pretty good. So, take up the challenge again and push on through!
Flexi
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Originally Posted by: Online Community MemberThe toolkit that is being referred to is the PC UK one, you can request online and they will send it in the post. Not sure if thats the one you have already? It's a black folder with loads if booklet inside.
Yes that must be the folder I have, I read everything the very first night and found it very informative indeed.
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Thank you Fiona that is very kind of you :)
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Originally Posted by: Online Community MemberRaiden,
I was living in Mexico when I was diagnosed 6 years ago, and I elected for Da Vinci...I had absolutely no idea that this site existed until the night before surgery and I was lying in bed in hospital in Monterrey...I found it a great help to receive many words of comfort and advice from fellow sufferers. I felt completely alone and was terrified at the time. I have been clear ever since the surgery but have continued to have problems with erections. Sex with my wife has changed but not stopped, if this is the price I have had to pay then it is worth it. Good luck to you.
Gary
Hi Gary
Thank you for the support and the information, great to hear you are clear and have been for some time, keep doing what your doing my new friend :)
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Originally Posted by: Online Community MemberHi Raiden
my husband was diagnosed last November, almost the same figures as yours. Age 58
He had RRP on dec 1st last year.
Nerve sparing on one side
He has still got continence problems, and is on 2 pads a day. In the last two weeks, he has started to get semi erections, although it's a slow process.
But the cancer has gone. It was upgraded on pathological examination to Gleason 9, and the surgeon said it had reached the outside of the capsule but not the surgical margins.
As an aside, my husband asked the surgeon what he would do if he had my OHs figures. He said surgery every time, although that might be because he's a surgeon! My OH never considered anything other than surgery because he didn't feel he could live with it inside him
And the cancer has gone. He is alive to complain about the continence issues and the ED.
Good luck with your choice
Louise
Hey Louise
Thank you for the support and for taking the time to post.
My thought process of having the surgery is based on "I don't think I could live knowing it was still inside me and could activate again at any time with surgery then not being an option, it terrifies me infact"
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Originally Posted by: Online Community MemberHi Raiden,
I am just dropping in to say Hi and welcome, the others have given you some brilliant advice so far, one thing that I would like to add is about the freezing of your sperm as you say you already have a son so this isn't a top priority but looking to the future you may meet the love of your life and children maybe a priority for her , also you may decide that you would want to have more children with the right person. So just a thought none of us know what the future holds and even if you never used that sperm it would be there just in case. I have heard it is a fairly quick procedure and not at all painful http://community.prostatecanceruk.org/editors/tiny_mce/plugins/emoticons/img/smiley-wink.gif. You are still a young Guy with lots of life yet to live.
Keep us updated with your journey (we are all a bit nosey). If you click on peoples avatars then you can read our individual Bios , as CB says your prognosis looks very good (I know that sounds weird) but as you start to gain knowledge of this disease you will understand as for saying that you must be a bad person to have had the bad luck to have a second dance with the big C , well I simply can't believe any one with your smile could be a bad person. It is just sometimes the way the cookie crumbles. We are all here for you .
BFN
Julie X
Hi Julie
Thank you for the support.
I thought long and hard the first time round about children and declined the freezing of sperm back then. I do still feel the same about it now and besides I am too old now to be a daddy again ha ha... But I will certainly spend some time thinking about it just to make myself 100% sure, as we just don't know what's around the corner.
You are so right about "its just how the cookie crumbles at times", I will try and tell myself that when my dark thoughts cloud my rationale once.
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Originally Posted by: Online Community MemberHi Raiden,
Sorry to see you here, especially as this is cancer number two for you. From your stats though it look like you've got a very good chance of many more years ahead of you, and as a fellow "doubler" and two years post Da Vinci, life's still pretty good. So, take up the challenge again and push on through!
Flexi
Sent from IPad whilst hiking in The Canadian Rockies
Hey Flexi
Thank you for the support and for taking the time to post to me.
Your post is very encouraging to read indeed and well done you.
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After reading the posts everyone has so kindly taken the time to send me, I am wondering the following.
In the ED department, do things like Viagra, Cialis, Le Vitra, Pumps etc take time to work after surgery or do they just work say a few months post operation or when you feel up to it?
Or am I deluding myself that its not going to be that easy to just pop a pill and them something will start stirring, obviously with stimulation.
The way the nurse explained it to me was I will suffer from ED and this can be anywhere from 6 months to up to 3 years post surgery and if the nerves are sparred, but during this time such options above will help in that department, I am getting the feeling its not going to be as easy as that?
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Just a thought on the freezing of sperm. When I had testicular cancer the norm then was to insist on a vasectomy. I had started RT before the social worker came along and said was I offered the ability to freeze sperm. I hadn't been and with RT in motion that was it. I figured I had had a daughter and my son was on the way and so it was not going to be an issue. Just three years later I was a single parent of two very young children and if another relationship had come along where having children was important to my partner I could not do it.
As it happened it was enough to be single parent but it would have been nice to have the choice,