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Posted 07 Jul 2015 at 04:43

hi bri

not tring to blow my own trumpet but I am a uka level 3 coach, what you are doing on the treadmill is what is called interval training, that is running set distance or time at slower followed by faster paced running

the backbone of any distance running (anyrun over a mile) is endurance, this is achieved by runs that are less than your target race but at a constant pace that feels easy, (which in our cases is not always that easy), or just going out to get a time in on run, interval or fartlek sessions are used to help to increase your pace, and should only be run twice a week.

I run 6 days a week

if I was training for a half my longest run would be 10miles and always after a rest day, or 90mins and not worry about the distance.

3 other days at distances between 4-6 miles

2 days doing interval/fartlek running or a temp run   fartlek is a Swedish word it means to run and just increase and decrease speed as you feel no set time or distance

to be able to run further or faster you need to train/learn your body to do this its a gradual thing

tempo run is running at a faster pace then normal but you can only utter the odd word

interval runs are set times or distance where say 2mins is very easy and 2mins fast not sprinting but quicker than a tempo run, repeat each 2mins or you could use qtr miles instead of 2mins, if you find you have to walk the easy bit then you are running the fast part to quick

nidge

Edited by member 07 Jul 2015 at 06:16  | Reason: Not specified

run long and prosper

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'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User
Posted 07 Jul 2015 at 05:58

by following the above over the last four weeks my 4mile run has gone from 9.06 min mileing to 8.40 min mileing

nidge

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User
Posted 07 Jul 2015 at 06:31

one of my pet likes it to tell people to keep hydrated, any run I do over 6 miles I carry a bottle of water, not the type of bottle you buy in a shop the proper handheld running bottles, lack of hydration leads to lack of performance will increase risk of injury

always drink before going out at least an hour before and not just before going out the water needs to get in your body, at work I will drink upto 4 pints a day, water that is

beer, coffee and tea do not help hydration

the sports drinks you buy in the shop contain to much sugar, never drink anything in a race you have not tried in training you will more than likely upset your stomach

you can also drink to much

I have had runners come with me and they have the proper water bottles and will just carry them without use for miles

when I ask them when will you use the water reply is often when I feel I need it

that is to late, I start drinking when I hit mile ONE, you only need a few sips each mile.

just because you may have been given a cupful or a bottle at a drink station doesn't mean you have to drink it all

on a hot day have a drink before you tip the rest over your head

and if needs be walk whilst you drink

nidge

 

 

 

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User
Posted 07 Jul 2015 at 10:34

From my own experience I believe that long walking is more benificial than running, even though I like running a lot. After I complete say a 100 mile hike I always feel so good! I feel fit, I lose all of the tummy podge and my mood always feels great for weeks. I usually start running within 3 days of my return from hikes but no matter how much running I do (routinely up to 5 miles a day) I gradually lose that peak fitness, my tummy podge tends to return and I get back to normal day to day living.

In my mind I think its because running is a short term time thing, it can be over within the hour, whereas my type of hiking is sustained and is consistent over much longer long periods of time, usually up to 8 hours per day. Well something like that anyway.

What is going to be of interest to me is when I return to running, after mid-September is how will my 'new model' bladder hold up with the constant striding and jarring that running demands of the body. We shall see.

As I am hiking the GR10 in France in mid July and will try to raise money for our local Da Vinci machine our local newspaper came to see me yesterday. They had me dressing up in my hiking gear, rucksack on back and took loads of photos of me standing up, sitting down, posing in a 'manly' way and so on. Whether I will make it to the newspaper I don't know but they took my fundraising page www.justgiving.com/Reg-Edmunds and said they would publish it.

I'm off to the woods soon, I just need to make sure that my boots are fully worn in. I just want to avoid blisters if I can!

User
Posted 07 Jul 2015 at 16:28

Hi all
AAAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrGGGGGGGG
I posted "Had RP on 12th June and doing well." when it should have read May 12th. This is what happens when my wife's birthday is June the 12th and my young grandson was on my knee trying to use the keyboard whilst I was writing on the computer. Yes I know d*%khead.
So I am 6/7weeks post-op hence trying to start back with the jogging. Anyway the bleeding has stopped and I have been resting for the past few days with no blood in pee. Hopefully just a warning to NOT jog yet.
Thanks all for replying.

PS planning to walk Hadrian's Wall next year for Prostate Cancer UK with my younger brother who had RP last year. 

Edited by member 07 Jul 2015 at 16:30  | Reason: Not specified

User
Posted 08 Jul 2015 at 09:12

Not been able to get on here for a few days, no idea why. Nice to read about other peoples running activity.

A question for the runners and joggers and trainers or coaches. Does walking fast, at 8.3 kph for example do any damage to the hips? After chatting with another runner at MOTS I now vary my speed on the treadmill, start at 7 kph for 2 minutes then 8.3, did 8.4 yesterday for 2 sets. But will this damage my hips or knees? Would I be better going back to accepting that I will leak, wear a pad and start running again?

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 08 Jul 2015 at 10:30

It's damaged my bloody achilles again...so pxxsed off...just as I am improving it looks like I am going to have to rest up again ggrrr

Bri

User
Posted 08 Jul 2015 at 12:32

Sorry to read this Bri,

what about a rowing machine? Or a hand cycle, one of those cycle machines you work with your arms?

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 08 Jul 2015 at 18:08

Cheers Dave. ..I'll be using the bikes, cross trainers and rowing machine for a few weeks whoie it settles down...oh and the stairs to stretch the tendon

Bri

User
Posted 08 Jul 2015 at 18:33

countryboy

I would say that if the walking is causing you less problems stick with that awhile longer, and then add in some short sessions of running with your walking and see how that goes

any excercise can make your hips ache

nidge

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User
Posted 14 Jul 2015 at 20:56
I hope no one reads this as me blowing my own trumpet but I wanted to share with you what can be done despite having the last 6 months on chemo and then RT that finished last Tuesday as I want to encourage others just to try to do some exercise even if it's just getting out of bed to make a cup of coffee.

Over the weekend I completed a 100k (or 62 mile) race over two days (Race to the Stones), it took me 14 hours and 42 minutes and I came 99th out of 483 competitors and 9th out of 32 men in their 50s.

On the day of my diagnosis I thought I would never run again and when I had my first dose of chemo thought that I would never go out again but with a positive attitude despite what was going on and getting of lightly with side effects I have achieved something that I thought was now out of my reach.

So what next ? Well I have entered the Marathon Des Sables in April next year see link below if you have not heard of it:-

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wd-rPaBMTIc

In a nutshell, it is 150 odd miles over 6 days in the Sahara carrying everything from day one to the end apart from your tent and water (given to you in 1.5 litre quotas every 10k). In due course I will of course be looking to raise a few quid for our favourite charity but for now I hope that I can inspire as many of you as possible to believe that you can still do something awesome as I do despite being T4M1N1a.

The training is brutal enough (I ran 205 miles in June with the race 10 months away still) but I guess it is the one thing on my bucket list so it's worth it.

Please post anything any of you achieve no matter how big or small as it is all relative to someone.

Kev

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today Avatar is me doing the 600 mile Camino de Santiago May 2019

User
Posted 14 Jul 2015 at 21:46

Well done Kev. What an achievement

We can't control the winds - but we can adjust our sails
User
Posted 14 Jul 2015 at 23:55

Kev,

Well done.

Steve

User
Posted 15 Jul 2015 at 04:46

irun will be chaning his name shortly to inutter

seriously though you amaze me

nidge

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User
Posted 15 Jul 2015 at 06:57

Kev,

was that the run that Jenson Button was involved with, or Vassos Alexander from Radio 2?

And following your chat with me about running, and how to run correctly, I watched numerous U Tube videos, and I am back at it, feel tired, knackered actually, but absolutely great, and not so damp due to the interval training. I have controller bursts of 2 minutes a 11.5kph. SO good I have ordered a fresh pair of New Balance shoes so I will fly. Yeah, right!

Maybe you could start a thread updating your preparation and progress for your uber "Jog In The Sand"?

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 15 Jul 2015 at 08:42
Kev

you really are such an inspiration to people here and anywhere else in your life. I am absolutley certain nobody here would think you were blowing your own trumpet, what you are doing is awesome, incredible and heroic.

I know that the big race is 10 months away so I really hope that for once a reality TV show could be just that REALITY and that PCUK or someone else involved could capture this throughout your training and how you mentally prepare to give the world a glimpse of the whole preparation and race itself.I am sure it would provide a huge amount of the right publicity for Men Utd and would rasie public awareness better than any other thing I can think of. It could also be a massive fundraiser too. I somehow think that the race organisation may not allow that as I believe, through necessity, it is incredibly strict on rules and regulations.

I listened to Sir Ranulph Fiennes talking on the radio after this years race and thought how crazy he was but there again he is an adventurer and likes a challenge just like you. I am a little worried about the camels chasing you but I guess they move slower than I think (I certainly hope so or Kevirun would become Kevflatpack!!)

When you start raising your sponsorship I will be right there as I know many, many others from this forum will be.

You have my total respect

xx

Mo

User
Posted 15 Jul 2015 at 10:13

What about starting your just giving page now?

Mo has a good idea, there is a really good story in this, surely someone could pick up on it and run ( pun groan :-( ) with it?

dave

Do all you can to help yourself, then make the best of your time. :-)
User
Posted 15 Jul 2015 at 10:31

now does nikonsteve have any contacts, just a thought

nidge

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User
Posted 15 Jul 2015 at 10:32

does nikonsteve have any contacts

nidge

Edited by member 15 Jul 2015 at 10:32  | Reason: Not specified

run long and prosper

'pooh how do you spell love'

'piglet you dont spell love -you just feel it'

User
Posted 15 Jul 2015 at 18:15
Thanks for the encouragement.

To be fair PCUK are on the case but I said that having fleeced my contacts for my 2 chemo marathons (I raised £21k) i thought I would wait until September/ October to launch next years fund raising.

Rest assured I will raise the profile for my fund raising in a couple of months and will bore you all silly with my training regime. At this stage I need to lose 10kg and run 60miles a week, it builds from there!

The real point of my posting is that pc affects us all differently and whilst others thoughts are always good we each have a responsibility to ourselves and our family to push a little bit and never give up trying.

Kev

Dream like you have forever, live like you only have today Avatar is me doing the 600 mile Camino de Santiago May 2019

 
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